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  1. The Garrett Ace 300 metal detector was introduced in 2016 and is still in production. The Ace 300 is a 8 kHz VLF metal detector aimed primarily at coin, jewelry, and relic detecting. "Garrett has placed big features into the ACE 300 - Digital Target ID, better detection abilities, a new audio system, and more - for a price that can’t be beat." Source: Garrett website Garrett Ace 300 metal detector Garrett Ace 300 control panel Digital Target ID: 0 to 99 scale offers target information 7" x 10" PROformance™ submersible searchcoil offers more coverage, depth Higher frequency (8 kHz) provides better sensitivity on low and medium-conductivity targets (i.e. gold, lead) Increased Iron Resolution: twice the iron resolution of an ACE 250, to help overcome target masking in iron-laden hunt sites Adjustable Frequency to help eliminate interference Camlocks for increased stem stability Includes Pulse-Width Modulation audio: sharper, more responsive audio Includes Electronic Pinpointing: precisely locates targets and speeds recovery Notch Discrimination: Modify discrimination patterns based on what you are seeking. Five Search Modes (plus Pinpoint) Eight (8) Sensitivity/Depth adjustments Coin Depth Indicator determines target depth Expanded Target ID legend: includes indication of U.S. coin denominations Official Garrett Ace 300 Product Page Garrett Ace 300 Owner's Manual Garrett Metal Detector Forum
  2. The Garrett Ace 250 metal detector was introduced in 2006 and was discontinued in 2019. The Ace 250 is a 6.5 kHz VLF metal detector aimed primarily at coin, jewelry, and relic detecting. "Garrett has placed big features into the ACE 250—excellent detection depth, rugged design and ease of operation—for a price that can't be beat." Source: Garrett website Garrett Ace 250 metal detector Garrett Ace 250 control panel Electronic Pinpointing: to precisely locate target and speed recovery Accept/Reject Discrimination: to modify discrimination patterns Five Search Modes: select pre-set discrimination pattern or create your own Continuous Coin Depth Indicator: to determine target depth Battery Condition Indicator: shows battery life continually Interchangeable ACE series searchcoils: are available Expanded Target ID Legend: easy-to-read above large LCD screen Pushbutton Controls: with One-Touch operation Other features: 3-piece travel/storage, disassembles to 24"; adjustable arm cuff; quarter-inch (1/4") size headphone jack. Garrett Ace 250 Owner's Manual Garrett Metal Detector Forum
  3. The Garrett Ace 200 metal detector was introduced in 2016 and is still in production. The Ace 200 is a 6.5 kHz VLF metal detector aimed primarily at coin, jewelry, and relic detecting. "Lightweight and Easy to Learn. Powerful, entry-level detector with One-Touch operation. Turn on and begin finding treasure!" Source: Garrett 2018 catalog Garrett Ace 200 metal detector Garrett Ace 200 control panel Digital Target ID - Numeric scale from 0 to 99; indicates a target’s conductivity for increased ability to distinguish targets from each other. Pulse Width Modulation Audio - Provides sharp, responsive target signals. Three Search Modes Coin Depth Indicator helps determines target depth. Camlocks for increased stem stability Four Sensitivity adjustments Low Battery Indicator Disassembles into three pieces for storage/travel. 6.5” x 9” PROformance searchcoil included Official Garrett Ace 200 Product Page Garrett Ace 200 Owner's Manual Garrett Metal Detector Forum
  4. Best one knob detector ever made! I don't know that for a fact, but the Compadre certainly outlived all the rest of them, so it gets my vote. New Tesoro Compadre data page Tesoro Compadre metal detector Tesoro Compadre control panel
  5. XP Deus Owner's Manual XP Orx Owner's Manual I have a soft spot for Equinox obviously but if XP really is trying to go after the gold market in the U.S. and Australia like they did with the XP manufactured Depar DPR 600 in Africa they have far more problems than the Equinox. When the DPR 600 project happened in 2016 the gold nugget market was a different thing, with the Fisher Gold Bug Pro being perhaps the most popular nugget detector in Africa, and at a far lower price than the XP Deus. The African gold market dwarfs the coin and relic market worldwide, it's that big, so everyone wants to get in on it. Keep in mind that the Gold Bug Pro not only costs less but is far easier to operate than the XP, requires no charging (Africa, remember) and hardly weighs anymore either. Since 2016 we have seen the introduction of several more gold nugget detectors, not least being the Minelab Gold Monster ($799 two coils), Makro Gold Kruzer ($749 two coils), and most recently the White's Goldmaster 24K ($699 two coils). Notice these machines have two coils for less cost than the Orx, and in the case of the Gold Kruzer you have all the coin and relic capability also, plus waterproof. Machines like these and more are the real competition for the XP Orx. And I have to tell you as a die hard nugget hunter the only real appealing feature for me with the Orx compared to the others is the way it folds down and stuffs in a rucksack. I can find gold as well with any of them, so it really comes down to the feature list. I suspect XP will find most coin and relic types still going XP Deus as I would myself if I was going the versatility route. And that the XP Orx is not going to have much impact on the U.S. and Australian gold nugget markets unless the price comes down a bit from what we are anticipating. The market has been flooded with new gold nugget prospecting models the last couple years, and it is hard for me to believe there are lots of prospectors out there who do not already have at least one if not several of these detectors. This thread sums up the competition and shows why the Orx may be a great machine, but has its work cut out for it versus the competition still, unless U.S. prices come in a little lower than anticipated.
  6. This all made me want to get another 6" coil but with snow on the ground best if I just sit this one out. The ferrous thing is not so much on my radar, but testing between the two versions on the tiniest of gold nuggets has my interest. In theory the new version that tends to spark more on ferrous is where I would place my bet for which would do best on the tiniest gold. Usually suppressing ferrous is very dangerous for the tiny nugget hunter, which is why I prefer still to run with iron bias set at zero when nugget detecting. But really, the only way to do it right needs that second 6" coil, so I guess that's on my wish list now.
  7. It all looks like gold to me. Actually, you can find natural gold nuggets that will break for various reasons. The more rock they have in them, the more likely a crack and a break may occur. Looks to me like you found a lower purity nugget with a weak spot/crack and it broke. You can never swear with photos but it has the "look" to my eye so I am calling all three pieces gold. Congratulations! It is hard to overestimate the value of field training when it comes to nugget hunting. It is a whole different gig than most types of detecting, the main thing being how tiny the targets AND the signals can be. Just whispers of whispers at times.
  8. Well, you are asking for a typical TC, which I am assuming is Time Constant. Most people here will be thinking in terms of target id numbers. Remember these are natural objects. A nugget can be 90% gold, 60% gold, or 10% gold. That alone will send conductivity all over the place, with pure gold being the best signal. Adding silver to gold does not raise conductivity as people assume because alloys do not conduct electricity as well as pure metal. Silver is a far better conductor than gold if both metal are pure, but adding silver to gold reduces the conductivity and therefore the time constant and target numbers are reduced. The gold can be solid and round, or solid and flat as a pancake. The shape not only will change everything but also the orientation in the ground. The gold can be solid or it can be porous. Porous gold is usually invisible to PI detectors. It can porous due to air spaces or porous due to enclosed minerals. If the enclosed minerals (iron sulphides for instance) have electrical or magnetic properties that will change everything. Suffice it to say that gold is a mess when it comes to how it reacts with a detector. Most of us do not use test nugget based on mesh size but on weight. I usually use a 1 grain nugget (480 grains per Troy ounce) to test VLF detectors. A PI will not normally detect that, so I am normally going to use a quarter gram or half gram nugget to test a PI. There are 15.43 grains per gram. I just weighed a few 8 mesh nuggets, and they were from 1 grain to 4 grains in weight. That will definitely present a challenge to a PI, with some probably being detectable with a hot PI, and some not. Just depends on the above factors. Here are a series of test nuggets and target numbers for them I did. The gold is larger but shows how the numbers vary with size and purity. Size Equivalents Two scales that are used to classify particle sizes are the US Sieve Series and Tyler Equivalent, sometimes called Tyler Mesh Size or Tyler Standard Sieve Series. The most common mesh opening sizes for these scales are given in the table below and provide an indication of particle sizes. The mesh number system is a measure of how many openings there are per linear inch in a screen. Sizes vary by a factor of √2. This can easily be determined as screens are made from wires of standard diameters, however, opening sizes can vary slightly due to wear and distortion. US sieve sizes differ from Tyler Screen sizes in that they are arbitrary numbers. US Sieve Size Tyler Equivalent Opening mm in - 2½ Mesh 8.00 0.312 - 3 Mesh 6.73 0.265 No. 3½ 3½ Mesh 5.66 0.233 No. 4 4 Mesh 4.76 0.187 No. 5 5 Mesh 4.00 0.157 No. 6 6 Mesh 3.36 0.132 No. 7 7 Mesh 2.83 0.111 No. 8 8 Mesh 2.38 0.0937 No.10 9 Mesh 2.00 0.0787 No. 12 10 Mesh 1.68 0.0661 No. 14 12 Mesh 1.41 0.0555 No. 16 14 Mesh 1.19 0.0469 No. 18 16 Mesh 1.00 0.0394 No. 20 20 Mesh 0.841 0.0331 No. 25 24 Mesh 0.707 0.0278 No. 30 28 Mesh 0.595 0.0234 No. 35 32 Mesh 0.500 0.0197 No. 40 35 Mesh 0.420 0.0165 No. 45 42 Mesh 0.354 0.0139 No. 50 48 Mesh 0.297 0.0117 No. 60 60 Mesh 0.250 0.0098 No. 70 65 Mesh 0.210 0.0083 No. 80 80 Mesh 0.177 0.0070 No.100 100 Mesh 0.149 0.0059 No. 120 115 Mesh 0.125 0.0049 No. 140 150 Mesh 0.105 0.0041 No. 170 170 Mesh 0.088 0.0035 No. 200 200 Mesh 0.074 0.0029 No. 230 250 Mesh 0.063 0.0025 No. 270 270 Mesh 0.053 0.0021 No. 325 325 Mesh 0.044 0.0017 No. 400 400 Mesh 0.037 0.0015
  9. Just so people know what we are talking about. The two box coil option for the XP Deus was first mentioned as part of the V4 firmware rollout. Just in case people think otherwise, a setup like this will not detect anything much smaller than a grapefruit. More on two box detectors here. "The Ultimate Search Coil XP has once again “raised the bar” in terms of expanding the capabilities of the DEUS with the introduction of Two-Box coil option. Providing exceptional coverage and extreme detection depth, it is the ideal accessory for detection of deep buried target such as hidden weapons. Because of greater coverage it also makes detection process quicker, allowing scanning of larger fields in less time." XP Deus "two box" deep seeking coil option
  10. Great analysis Chase.... you did what I was planning to do but have not yet. To me it really just comes down to pricing. Right now I can't find any U.S. sites advertising pre-sale prices, so all we have to go by is from the Orx announcement: "Affordable price – Suggested maximum retail price: 699€ including taxes – 799€ including taxes with wireless headphone (WSA)." 699 Euro as of this minute is US$798 and 799 Euros is US$912 Now they do say "maximum retail price" so MAP (Minimum Advertised Price) may be lower. However, Detekniks is advertising presale pricing at $699.00 and $798.90 pounds sterling which equals about US$893.39 and US$1021.70 respectively. But I am still guessing US$799 and US$899 respectively for the two models (with or without wireless headphones) I was figuring on the XP Orx being an offshoot of the Depar DPR 600 which was retailing for US$680. It made sense for XP to release a more gold specific detector, simpler to operate for gold prospectors, and at a lower price to compete with all the $700 dedicated prospecting detectors out there, like the Makro Gold Kruzer for instance. Bottom line is you can get an XP Deus with controller, wired headphones, and X35 9" coil for $1230 and the XP Orx with controller, wired headphones, and 9" round HF coil for about US$799, a $400 savings. And the XP Deus with controller and wireless headphones for $1520 while the XP Orx with wireless headphones will be about US$899, a $600 savings. the wireless headphones on the Orx are not the exact same as the ones on the Deus but still, $600. Kind of a no-brainer if you are a gold prospector and don't care about the other capability. Here are the two closest XP Deus packages from XP website: 2 XP Deus Detector Comes with: FX-02 Wired Backphone Headphones LCD Remote Display 9” or 11" X35 Coil with Telescopic Pole 9" Option Part Number: DEUS22X35RCUS11" Option Part Number: DEUS28X35RCUSSee LCD Functions Where to BuyMSRP $1475.00 USD/CAD MAP Price: $1230.00 3 XP Deus Detector Comes with: WS4 Backphone Headphones LCD Remote Display 9” or 11" X35 Coil with Telescopic Pole 9" Option Part Number: DEUS22X35RCWS4US11" Option Part Number: DEUS28X35RCWS4US Where to BuyMSRP $1825.00 USD/CAD MAP Price: $1520.00 That makes a good case for the XP Orx being a less expensive option for gold prospectors. Like Chase I am more skeptical about how the true coin and relic people would think about it. Most people are not inclined towards "second best" and so I don't see this being a huge draw for those folks. Especially given the fact that you can go lower yet with the XP Deus starter package. Granted, it does not have the full controller, but XP has added so much capability now to the secondary headphone controllers that it is debatable if you need that full controller at all. The XP Deus Starter Package: 1 XP Deus Detector Comes with: FX-02 Wired Backphone Heaphones WS4 Display 9” or 11" X35 Coil with Telescopic Pole 9" Option Part Number: DEUS22X35WS4US11" Option Part Number: DEUS28X35WS4US See Starter Bundle Functions Where to BuyMSRP $1100.00 USD/CAD MAP Price: $799.00 XP Orx Product Information Page
  11. Personally I think the testing methodology here is flawed. The only way to test is with two detectors, each set up with 6” coil. Use identical settings but two different firmware setups, and test in the field on objects found in the ground. Going to a park one day with one firmware version and the next day with another version proves very little. I would consider such testing to be a waste of my time personally. I either drag two or more machines around when testing or I don’t bother. Requiring a second machine may seem too much of a burden to ask of most people, but that’s the way I test for manufacturers for whatever it’s worth. If have to see it with my own eyes, two machines on the same “found target”, for it to be useful information. Same machine, two different targets on two different days? That’s just a contest of perceptions. My Testing Methodology
  12. The Minimum Advertised price for the Fisher Gold Bug 2 has been US$764 for many years. I just noticed that at least a couple reputable websites are now advertising the Gold Bug 2 for $699. The Gold Bug 2 is getting a bit long in the tooth, having been in production since 1995, yet you can still argue that to this day no detector does a better job of getting the tiniest gold bits with its little 6" concentric coil. I am not sure if this is a temporary holiday price decrease, or just a response to all the new competition on the market. Still, I thought I would make a note of it for the Fisher Gold Bug 2 fans out there - you know who you are! Google search for "fisher gold bug 2" Fisher Gold Bug 2 metal detector
  13. Daniel Teague Published on Dec 5, 2018 Some of you guys were curious as to the tone differences between a Minelab GPX and Whites TDI. This is the GPX 4800 and TDI Beachhunter and a little bit of why I like the GPX better when it comes to relic and beach hunting.
  14. Doubtful since the first post in this thread has a link to the White's patent on this particular methodology. It is not impossible the new detector is doing something similar but getting around the patent somehow.... no idea about that.
  15. Yeah maybe 5" fresh snow in Reno yesterday....
  16. Hi amergin, I have not weighed in on the subject simply because I use my small coil in different scenarios and am too busy now (and with frozen ground) to try my own experiments. I would also need another 6" coil to do the testing properly. Needless to say a thankless task so I will say thanks for your efforts in trying to pin this down. I would advise you to not totally discount those who say they are not having the issue because the settings people are using and such do matter. If people are not having the issue that is also important information if there is some difference in the settings that account for it. But simply saying there is no problem is not helpful. Anyway I do know it can be incredibly frustrating just figuring out if a problem is real, let alone coming up with a fix for it. Good luck! ? It’s in the scoop... can you see it?
  17. Well Michael, since you are a first time poster making a statement I will just say I disagree with your conclusions and leave it at that. No point in any discussion really since you are as comfortable in your certainty as I am in mine.
  18. The Tesoro Lobo SuperTRAQ metal detector was introduced in 1997 and ceased production in 2018. It is a weatherproof 17.8 kHz VLF metal detector aimed primarily at gold prospecting with coin, jewelry, and relic detecting being secondary uses. "The Lobo Super TRAQ is an incredibly versatile, feature-rich machine that triumphs in small gold nugget prospecting. Spoil yourself with a detector that self-adjusts to any type of soil, even in highly mineralized locations. While the Lobo is designed to find gold, it also thrives in detecting coins, relics, and other treasures." Source: Tesoro 2013 catalog Tesoro Lobo SuperTRAQ metal detector Tesoro Lobo SuperTRAQ control panel SuperTRAQ Computerized Ground Tracking System VLF 17.8 kHz Frequency All Metal Auto Tune Mode Adjustable Threshold Silent Search Discriminate Mode Instant All Metal No-Motion Pinpointing Ultra-Smooth Operation in Extreme Mineralization MAXBoost Sensitivity Three Ground Tracking Modes: Normal Soil, Alkali, Black Sand Pole or Body Mount Lightweight Design 10" Elliptical Widescan Coil Limited Lifetime Warranty Official Tesoro Lobo SuperTRAQ Product Page Tesoro Lobo SuperTRAQ Owner's Manual Tesoro Lobo SuperTRAQ - Steve's Review Tesoro Metal Detector Forum
  19. That can happen when you drop into the Chevy forum to let everyone know you prefer your Ford! This topic has been moved to appropriate forum. Welcome to the forums Maltfoto. No worries, I sure don't want you refraining, just that this forum is the better venue for "this versus that" type of discussions. Neutral ground, so to speak.
  20. The White's TM 808 metal detector was introduced in 1996 and was still in production when White’s closed up shop in 2020. The TM 808 is a "two-box" metal detector that is designed for finding large objects at depth. Two box detectors are not sensitive to items much smaller than a baseball, but can detect large items like a 55 gallon drum or water main to depths exceeding ten feet. Two box detectors are a favorite of the classic "treasure hunter" but are more often used by utility companies and surveyors. The TM 808 originally included a "Cave Mode" intended to find large underground cavities. This "Cave Mode" was removed about 2010. "TM 808 is designed for locating coin caches, treasure chests and hordes of gold or silver - as well as septic tanks, tools, equipment, metal pipes and relics." Source: White's 2018 catalog White's TM 808 metal detector White's TM 808 control panel SIGNAL BALANCE CONTROL Adjusts the “Receive” signal to allow use almost anywhere- regardless of mineralization or outside interference EASY-TO-READ METER Shows signal strength RACE TRACK ANTENNA SYSTEM and state-of-the-art professional circuitry ADJUSTABLE GROUND BALANCE The only cache detector with the ability to reject ground minerals for deeper detection PUSH-BUTTON RETUNING DROP-IN C-CELL BATTERY PACK EASY TUNING & SETUP Preset settings on each control for hassle-free setup DESIGNED TO FIND septic tanks, tools and metal pipes as well as coin caches, treasure chests and hordes of gold or silver CONTROL SETTINGS labeled in English and Spanish INSTRUCTION MANUAL in English and Spanish Official White's TM 808 Product Page White's TM 808 Owner's Manual (1996 w/Cave Mode) White's TM 808 Owner's Manual (Revised 2010 w/o Cave Mode) White's Metal Detector Forum
  21. The White's Surfmaster PI Dual Field metal detector is the latest of the Surf PI series introduced in the mid-1990's. The Surf PI Dual was released in 2008 and was still in production when White’s closed up shop in 2020. The Surfmaster PI Dual Field is a fully submersible pulse induction (PI) metal detector aimed primarily at beach and underwater detecting. The Surf PI is submersible to 100 feet and therefore suitable for SCUBA diving. Note however that the coil and headphones are hardwired for extra waterproof integrity and are not interchangeable. "Designed for difficult beach grounds, the Surfmaster Dual Field combines turn-on-and-go ease with the extreme depth and sensitivity of pulse induction detection. PI technology yields extreme depth detection for coins and jewelry – especially in salt water and mineralized ground. This detector is surf-ready and completely waterproof to a depth of 100 feet. Its 12” dual-field search coil has near neutral buoyancy, so it won’t push away from the water or try to sink. Included Piezo headphones are also waterproof. The Surfmaster Dual Field is sensitive to gold, even at maximum depth, and makes hunting easier with gain control and variable sweep speed. The adjustable pulse delay reduces noise from black sand and junk, making targets easier to pick out." Source: White's website White's Surfmaster PI Dual Field metal detector White's Surfmaster PI Dual Field control panel PULSE INDUCTION DETECTION for extreme depth on coins and jewelry, especially in saltwater and mineralized ground COMPLETELY WATERPROOF to depth of 100 feet ADJUSTABLE PULSE DELAY reduces black sand noise. Quieter on the beach, more targets 12” DUAL FIELD spider search coil. Near-neutral buoyancy SENSITIVE TO GOLD even at maximum depths GAIN CONTROL ADJUSTS for your particular beach conditions so you get every inch of PI depth QUICK TARGET RECOVERY TUNER ADJUSTS THRESHOLD tone and checks battery VARIABLE SWEEP SPEED slow to fast with no loss of depth WATERPROOF PIEZO HEADPHONES AUTOMATIC GROUND REJECTION POWER: 8 “AA” batteries included TWO-YEAR Parts and Labor Warranty Official White's Surfmaster PI Dual Field Product Page White's Surfmaster PI Dual Field Owner's Manual White's Metal Detector Forum
  22. The White's TDI SL metal detector was introduced in 2011 and was still in production when White’s closed up shop in 2020. It is a pulse induction (PI) metal detector aimed primarily at relics, gold prospecting, and beach detecting. "The TDI SL provide serious detectorists with affordable pulse power. Initially developed to meet the demands of gold prospectors searching for extremely small and deep nuggets, the TDI has evolved into a detector that has proven itself as an effective detector for relic hunting, beach hunting and, under the right conditions, even coin hunting. Many of the surface relics and nuggets have been found out there, leaving a layer of even more valuable treasures that other detectors couldn’t reach. That’s where the TDI’s pulse technology comes in. This is one deep-seeking unit - especially in the harsh grounds - where other detectors just can’t compete." Source: White's 2018 catalog White's TDI SL metal detector White's TDI SL control panel FULL-CONTROL GROUND BALANCE - Quickly balance out the iron mineralization of hot rocks, black sand and other tough grounds ADJUSTABLE PULSE DELAY - Settings from 10 microseconds (best for finding gold nuggets) to 25 microseconds (for relic, coin and beach hunting) VARIABLE AUDIO - Select with Ground Balance “ON”. 3-WAY TARGET CONDUCTIVITY SELECTOR - Allows variable audio to hear either only low conductive targets like most gold nuggets, or high-conductive targets like silver coins and large relics, or both. Unique ability to aid in identifying trash THRESHOLD CONTROL - Accurately adjust the audio to hear the smaller, deeper signals FREQUENCY CONTROL - Adjustable for hunting near power lines, microwave or other interference GAIN CONTROL - Maximizes sensitivity and depth BATTERY L.E.D. INDICATOR LIGHT NIMH RECHARGEABLE BATTERY PACK - Up to 6 hours of hunting. Backup “AA” pack included. WATERPROOF 12” SPIDER search coil TWO-YEAR Parts and Labor Warranty Official White's TDI SL Product Page White's TDI SL Owner's Manual White's Pulsescan TDI - Steve's Review White's Metal Detector Forum
  23. The White's Goldmaster 24K metal detector was introduced in 2018 and was still in production when White’s closed up shop in 2020. It is a 48 kHz induction balance metal detector aimed primarily at gold prospecting. A waterproof version called the GMX Sport was released in 2020. Garrett Metal Detectors purchased White's Electronics, and the 24K bears the distinction of being the only model that Garrett continued to produce, as the Garrett Goldmaster 24K. All accessories like coils are compatible on both versions. "Featuring a 50% increase in coil voltage over previous models along with an all-new XGB ground balance system, take your prospecting to new depths with the Goldmaster 24k. This machine represents a new generation of VLF detection technology, with features that both sourdough and greenhorn prospectors can appreciate. Starting with the industry-standard 48 kHz operating frequency, we’ve packed all the necessities into one package to put you on the gold. A large, backlit display shows you all the machine’s settings as well as valuable target information. The Target Graph at the top of the display shows Ferrous, Gold, and High Conductor ranges, which is mirrored with Target ID numbers ranging from 0-99. An all-new XGB ground balance system can handle mineralized ground unlike other VLF prospecting machines." Source: Goldmaster 24K brochure White's Goldmaster 24K metal detector White's Goldmaster 24K control panel For advanced users, TracLock and Ground Grab are just a tap of button away. You can assign a ground balance offset in both TracLock or XGB modes. To help prospectors that prefer drywashing, sluicing, or panning, the Goldmaster 24k features a Ground Scan mode that can show you where valuable paystreaks are in streambeds and washes. The Goldmaster 24K offers 10 levels of adjustable sensitivity, adjustable audio volume with two levels of Boost, adjustable discrimination, vSAT, adjustable threshold, non-motion pinpoint, and a Tone ID mode. But don’t let that scare you if this is your first prospecting machine – this is a turn-on-and-go machine, with advanced features you can grow into as you gain experience. SENSITIVITY – Set the sensitivity at a level that does not result in false signals from the ground. Very strong ground may result in the symbol on screen and a loud sound – this means the sensitivity is too high. GROUND BALANCE – With the default setting, the detector will use XGB to automatically ground balance. Tap to lock the ground balance to the current setting. Tapping when the ground balance is locked will update the current ground setting to what is under the coil. GROUND SCAN – Hold to put the detector into Ground Scan mode. The top bar displays the ground strength and the two digit numbers display the ground type (phase). Useful for tracing paystreaks. IRON CANCEL – Tap to silence hot rocks, trash and mineral changes in both audio modes. Hold to select the Iron Cancel setting (1 bar is default). Note that this setting may decrease the detector’s sensitivity to very small gold, but is necessary in difficult ground conditions. VOLUME and THRESHOLD – Tap to adjust the volume with the up and down buttons. Hold to adjust the threshold with the up and down buttons (“th” displays on screen). Set these to a comfortable level for your hearing and preference. AUDIO MODE – With the displayed on screen, the detector is in “BEEP” audio mode (high tone = good target, low tone = bad target). The default setting (without on screen) is a traditional All-Metal audio mode with greater sensitivity to small targets. SAT – SAT can smooth out ground inconsistencies. Hold to adjust it (“Sa” displays on screen, 2 is the default setting). PINPOINT – Hold for non-motion pinpoint mode. In difficult ground this mode may be affected by mineralization. BACKLIGHT – Tap to enable the backlight (this reduces battery life). FREQUENCY SHIFT – Hold when turning the detector on to shift frequency (useful when there is EMI). Power off to save the selection. FACTORY RESET – Hold when turning the detector on to perform a factory reset. AUDIO - Built in speaker, 1/4” headphone jack BATTERIES - 8 AA WEIGHT - 3.5 lbs COILS - 6" x 10" DD standard. Optional 6” round concentric and 4" x 6" DD coils available White's Goldmaster 24K Quick Start Guide White's Goldmaster 24K Owner's Manual White's Goldmaster 24K Color Flyer White's Goldmaster 24K Advanced Ground Tracking Explained Detailed Review Of White's New Goldmaster 24K White's Goldmaster 24K & GMT Compared Forum threads tagged "whites 24k gmx" White’s Metal Detector Forum White's Goldmaster 24K Technical Specifications* Internet Price $729 Technology Induction Balance (IB) Frequency 48 kHz Autotune Mode(s) Variable Self Adjusting Threshold (V/SAT) Ground Rejection Tracking & Fixed w/Grab function, Ground Balance Offset Soil Adjust No Discrimination Visual & Audio Ferrous ID Volume Control Yes Threshold Control Yes Tone Adjust No Audio Boost Yes Frequency Offset Yes Pinpoint Mode Yes Audio Output 1/4" headphone socket & speaker (Headphones Included) Hip Mount Shaft Mount Only Standard Coil(s) 6" x 10" DD Coil standard Optional Search Coils 6" round concentric coil Battery Rechargeable NiMH plus Eight AA Pack Included Operating Time 20 - 40 hours Weight 3.5 pounds Additional Technology XGB Ground Tracking Technology, Ground Scan mode for tracing black sand deposits, Meter backlight Notes IP54 Rain & Dust Resistant *Notes on Technical Specifications - Detailed notes about the specifications listed in this chart. Not only does the new White's Goldmaster 24K features a new ground tracking system, but the gain has been boosted with an increase of voltage to the coil. From the Advanced Guide (link below): "When our engineers set out to build the GM24k, the goal was simple: improve the user’s chance to find gold without hurting their wallets. The obvious way to achieve this goal is increased sensitivity. The GM24k features a 54% increase in coil voltage over the GMT. You will see this in increased sensitivity to small nuggets. While testing this machine in Brazil, this was shown in a tiny, 0.4 grain crystalline nugget we found encased in quartz. In some cases this much power can be counter-productive if the ground is very challenging, so use it with caution! Even at lower gain settings the GM24k is an extremely “hot” machine on small gold and specimen nuggets." The new White's Goldmaster 24K comes with both rechargeable batteries and a holder for AA batteries. The GMK comes standard with the 6" x 10" DD search coil. Currently the is one accessory coil available, a 6" round concentric coil. Both a 14" x 8" DD and 6" x 4" DD coil are possible in the future but have yet to be offered for sale as of March 2019. White's Goldmaster 24K display and controls Here is a video released August 8, 2018 that goes over the basic features and operation of the Goldmaster 24K... From this thread: GOLDMASTER 24K WHITE'S PAPER XGB - A New Way To Ground Balance The biggest challenge we face as electronic prospectors is highly mineralized ground. Simply increasing the gain on the current VLF platforms might help prospectors in very mild ground conditions, but what about more difficult areas with concentrations of black sand, maghemite, serpentine, or alkali salts? On a trip to Brazil we witnessed a combination of these conditions, with soil that ranged from red to black to purple, and exhibited a combination of ferrous and alkali properties within a 4 ft square section. We saw first-hand VLFs from each manufacturer fail to balance out the combination of minerals. Even the top-of-the-line pulse induction machines struggled in this area - machines which cost the garimpeiros (the local term for gold miners) several years’ wages. Our goal was simple: a nice even threshold in challenging ground conditions without giving up sensitivity. The theory is that the main battle most electronic prospectors fight is being able to discern a potential gold signal from ground noise. A smooth threshold would allow users to use more gain and increase their odds of finding small gold where it likes to hide - in mineralized ground. The issue with other VLF detectors on the market is that they were tracking a single ground balance point. When the ground type changes quickly, the machine gives off a false signal. For a user the result is ear fatigue, frustration, and less positive signals dug. One easy way to mask variable ground is implementing an auto-gain feature that automatically numbs the detector. This does not solve the issue, only hides it. The Goldmaster 24k’s XGB is a new automatic ground tracking system that works by tracking multiple ground points simultaneously and quickly. Where other VLF’s track one ground balance point, the Goldmaster 24k tracks several, and can determine an optimal “ground window” based on ground history and strength. This is very useful in rapidly changing ground conditions, where other VLF machines may struggle to track the mineralization changes. Combine this with the speed at which the Goldmaster 24k is able to grab ground samples, and you have a superior ground balance system for a prospector’s VLF. XGB Ground Balance versus legacy methods With any automatic process, there are some concessions. Take vehicles for example - manual gearboxes are still preferred by car enthusiasts. That’s why we felt strongly about including a TracLock® ground option. When used with the Ground Grab, a locked ground balance setting allows users to set the ground balance in an area and lock it until they need to re-ground balance. For users after the tiniest bits of gold, this option allows for the maximum sensitivity to small signals. One technique we observed from field testers was allowing the XGB to automatically track, and then after getting a solid hit or finding a patch, locking the ground balance for target location and retrieval. For many users this combination will be the best of both worlds - the strength of XGB, but only when you need or want it. The net result of an overhauled automatic ground balance system is a VLF gold nugget detector that can be used in wider variety of ground conditions with a nice stable threshold. Operating a machine with a smooth threshold allows for a user’s ears to tune into those slight variations that just might be the next nugget. Our goal is that our customers are able to have success with the Goldmaster 24k in areas that other VLF’s struggle, and at a price that allows more people to get a taste of electronic prospecting. Tom Boykin White's Project Manager Gold nuggets found with new White's Goldmaster 24K - smallest under 1/10th grain
  24. The White's Goldmaster GMT metal detector was introduced in 2000 and was still in production when White’s closed up shop in 2020. It is a 48 khz induction balance metal detector aimed primarily at gold prospecting. "THE GMT IS WHITE’S GOLDMASTER® - used in goldfields around the world! This detector ignores the harsh ground found in gold-bearing areas to simplify prospecting and find nuggets large and small - and coins, too. The GMT® is made for gold country, with 48 KHz operating frequency - the best for gold - and a waterproof search coil that’s ready for streams and rivers. High-end features like the iron target analyzer make hunting easier. Manual controls are available for advanced users and each option includes a recommended initial setting. Also onboard: variable self-adjusting threshold, Grab Pushpad for setting ground balance instantly, automatic ground balance and “Follow the Paystreak” feature, which displays the amount of magnetic minerals in the ground." Source: 2018 White's catalog White's Goldmaster GMT metal detector White's Goldmaster GMT control panel AUTO GROUND BALANCE with Fast AutoTrac® TRACKS AND ADJUSTS while you hunt GRAB PUSHPAD GROUND BALANCE sets in an instant IRON ID Bar Graph PROBABILITY OF IRON displays in percentage IRON TARGET ANALYZER determines the probability of iron as you sweep “FOLLOW-THE-PAYSTREAK” displays the amount of magnetic minerals in the ground OPTIONAL AUDIO Iron ID “Grunt” comes at the end of the GMT’s “zip-zip” sound VARIABLE SELF-ADJUSTING THRESHOLD (VSAT) WATERPROOF ELLIPTICAL “DD” search coil 48 KHZ operating frequency - Best for gold! EIGHT “AA” Drop-in Battery System 40 HRS. OF HUNTING (Optional Nicad Rechargeable System, sold separately) TWO-YEAR Parts and Labor Warranty Official White's Goldmaster 24K Product Page White's Goldmaster GMT Owner's Manual White's Goldmaster GMT - Steve's Review White's Metal Detector Forum
  25. The White's MX7 metal detector was introduced in 2017 and was still in production when White’s closed up shop in 2020. The MX7 is a 13.9 kHz VLF metal detector aimed primarily at coin, jewelry, relic, and gold nugget detecting. "THE RIGHT DETECTOR, AT THE RIGHT PRICE! All the features and sensitivity of the MX Sport - in a detector built for land and shallow water hunting. Just like Sport users have discovered, MX7 will give you a new opportunity to hunt those spots you’ve been before and uncover a new layer of depth. Super-sensitive to small gold targets, too. Plus, the MX7 is so light and balanced at just 3.5 lbs, you’ll be able to hunt all day,and find more." Source: White's 2018 catalog White's MX7 metal detector White's MX7 control panel WATER-RESISTANT HOUSING is perfect for land and shallow water hunting SIX ADJUSTABLE HUNT PROGRAMS. Coin and Jewelry, Beach, Relic,Prospecting, High Trash and All Metal. Plus, Pinpoint FAST RECOVERY SPEED. Pick out those good targets right alongside trash REJECT VOLUME™. Maximize depth and filter target responses by the intensity of the volume- 8 settings SALT TRACK. An option in all hunt programs, Salt Track enhances performance in wet sand, in some farm fields and in the alkali patches often found in prospecting areas TONE ID. Hunt in 1, 2, 4, 8 or 20-tone I.D. AUTO GROUND BALANCE WITH TRACKING. Grab options. Complete versatility to go from the park to the beach to the desert FREQUENCY OFFSET for hunting alongside other detectors OPERATING FREQUENCY 13.9 KHZ LIGHTWEIGHT DESIGN - JUST 3.5 LBS. ADJUSTABLE 3-PIECE ROD 8 “AA” BATTERY PACK included 9.5” CONCENTRIC WATERPROOF COIL (other Sport coils are available, sold separately) 2-YEAR PARTS & LABOR WARRANTY ADJUSTABLE ARMREST with arm strap Official White's MX7 Product Page White's MX7 Owner's Manual White's Metal Detector Forum
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