Jeff McClendon

Like GotAU said plus several North American owners on here are waiting for their GPX 6000 repairs to be completed and/or to get their's back from Detector Center.

Unless there is a firmware update included with the board level component upgrade……… and the service agents are not mentioning it? Sounds like a lot of conjecture to me. As long as the GPX 6000 has lower susceptibility to interference from its own speaker and from EMI in general without incurring a noticeable performance loss, I’m good with whatever the fix is.

I sold my ML 80s almost immediately because I AM an orchestral musician and a classical music trained singer and those headphones had way too much bass and the mid and high tones had most of their brilliance removed. So those phones were very bottom heavy. I tried them on other audio sources with the supplied audio cable and they were the same......biased way towards the lower bass range and no way to adjust them enough even with my equalizer.......The WM08 module with any "normal" wired headphones or just plugging in a decently balanced set of wired headphones into the control pod made for a completely different audio experience for me. So did using the aftermarket BT headphones and earbuds that I purchased. So it isn't BS longbow62. Some of us have very different and subjective hearing abilities and preferences. When I am nugget hunting I don't want muffled sound, I want bright and very immediate sound responses for those faint signals. The ML 100s that come with the Minelab GPX 6000 have a much more balanced audio response. I have no complaint with those. The Garrett Z-Lynk headphones are a bit bottom heavy but doable. I have never had an issue with my Z-Lynk headphones or transmitter timing out when being used with other non-Garrett detectors.

It all depends on where one hunts and what types of targets. He needs an actual waterproof detector and one that can handle heavy iron trash really well. The Equinox has proven itself to not be consistently waterproof and it is just OK in heavy iron trash. It also has a very compressed target ID area in the US nickel/modern pull tab range which Manticore doesn't have. If he was a nugget or meteorite hunter in high iron/volcanic rock mineralization, he might be saying something completely different.

I have had three episodes where I looked at my coil battery info on the display when I started hunts and battery level was full. 3 to 4 hours later my coil either had critically low battery levels and/or had unpaired itself. I was not using Deep HC and the other Deus 2 components were not showing low battery levels. ????

Have you done a factory reset? Turn on your GM 1000 by holding the power button down for at least 10 seconds....

The post you can't find is right next to this one. To make it easier here is the link.....

There are lots of white colored minerals in that specimen. My thought is it's not a meteorite. My other thought is it appears to be an intrusive igneous rock that formed in or near the earth's mantle. https://sites.wustl.edu/meteoritesite/items/quartz-calcite-magnetite-hematite-micas/

First go to Field 2. Default Field 2 is 50 tones with -9 to +2 rejected so since you want two tones the tone break will be at +2. You want to lower that tone break to 0 or below according to your post. Next press the settings button until you see the speaker icon with musical notes next to it. Press the - button so the display will have a big 2 for two tones instead of 50. Changing the tone break is done by pressing the settings button one more time. You should see the check mark/X icon which is the Accept/Reject setting. Hold down the settings button until you see line under the check mark/X icon. Adjust the tone break using the - or + buttons. While you are in the Accept/Reject setting, you might want to go ahead and accept most or all of the iron range target IDs. Depending on your ground conditions, ground noise and many hot rocks will be -9 to -7 so you could accept everything else and then use the Horseshoe button to check iffy sounding targets that might have some intermittent -7 to -9 IDs.

In the USA, I just filled out Detector Center’s online form on Wednesday night for a repair ticket, described what I wanted done and had a reply from them and a repair ticket number within 12 hours. Already mailed mine to them on the next day………couldn’t have been easier even with me being temporarily handicapped. I agree, Minelab could have at least done what Nokta did with the recent Legend speaker issue. Nokta recognized that Legend speakers were failing, they let their customers know that they were sourcing replacement speakers from a different manufacturer and were retrofitting available stock, then they let their customers know when there were replacements available at their countries service centers. They got out in front of it publicly very quickly. So, Minelab may have had inductor sourcing issues too and needed to retrofit existing stock and then supply enough parts to their worldwide service network. For US dealers to know nothing until this information hit the forums and other social media is a joke. Anyway, I expect I will get a email from Detector Center later next week letting me know to lookout for a return package.

Your photo appears to show the Deus mounted on one of the newer super lightweight shafts that comes stock with the ORX and it has one piece plastic construction for the upper shaft/arm cuff. Directly below the hand grip the area that touches the ground is actually flat. On Deus 1 and Deus 2 shafts that flat area on the stock ORX shaft is rounded with 2 phillips head screws and the back end of the arm cuff area is even higher off the ground and it will topple over in a light breeze. For that glacier remnant cut in your second photo, you can literally remove the coil/lower stem, put the rest of the detector down and just detect with it like using a 50 or 80 kHz Nokta Pulse Dive.....talk about lightweight.

I go back and forth with this question. I still have my ORX with 9" round HF and I still have my Deus 2 with 9" FMF. If I just compare the two using the ORX gold modes and using Deus 2 Mono, which the way I understand it is a facsimile of Deus 1 Fast, I get very similar results using Deus 2 Mono with Pitch tones and disc set at minimum of -6.4. Using Deus 2 Mono, most of the really small sub .1 gram or smaller gold that is being adversely effected target ID wise by iron mineralization will hit between -4 and -6.4 in my area. Small bits of tin hit in the -4 to -2 ID area and most smaller nails come in at -1 to +3. So running disc at -6.4 makes all targets just have a normal VCO tone with no hint of an iron target except for double hits on shallower elongated iron and some slightly mushy hits on tin. Run disc up to +1 to catch the nails and tin with an iron tone......smaller gold will also potentially have iron tones. The same happens with the ORX. If I run disc IAR above 0, small iron and tin begins to break up with mixed iron grunt and VCO audio depending on whether I have iron volume ON. However, the really small .1 gram or smaller gold will be disced out unless I turn the really loud (no volume adjustment) iron tone ON. With Deus 2 Mono I also have the option of using Full Tones. With disc on -6.4 I get everything sounding as it should depending on target ID. I also have the Square Wave or PWM tone option which can make Pitch tones and Full Tones have more definition and modulation if I need it. Deus 2 also has FMF Sensitive FT as a stock program.....with a little tweaking Sensitive Full Tones will slightly out perform FMF Goldfield at least in my area......and both Sensitive programs do very well in high iron mineralization. ORX does not have Full tones or Pitch tones and it doesn't have a Square Wave/PWM option. It also does not have adjustable iron tone volume control. Things to think about, especially if XP improve FMF Goldfield on Deus 2 or add a Mono Goldfield option. Conversely, what if XP updates the ORX with Pitch or Full tone audio and iron tone volume adjustments?????

I have been using Deus/Orx detectors since 2017. In that time I have broken two of the butterfly clips and I am not heavy handed. I have never broken an Equinox coil ear and no other Deus/ORX part for that matter. A drill, short bolts, nuts and short spring got both back into working condition but……..give me a break. Someone on this thread suggested sanding down the coil cover area where the clip connects. I also strongly suggest doing that if you have to really work hard to get the ends of the butterfly clip or the Detector Doodad after market clip over the top edge of the coil cover. It makes it a lot easier and less stressful and it doesn’t hurt the coil cover’s integrity. If you don’t use the coil cover, putting on the butterfly clip is super easy. So, it isn’t “first grade stuff “ depending on how much the coil cover bulges in the area where the clip attaches due to the way the cover fits and/or the amount of dirt and debris inside the coil cover.

If you need the lightest weight possible gold prospecting VLF, especially for really small gold, the ORX fits that bill perfectly for most soil conditions using its gold modes with the HF coils above 50 kHz. Great display with big numbers, iron probability bar, mineralization bar and easy to do ground grab. It also has the ability to hunt in its gold modes with 2 tones by using the discrimination IAR set on 1 or above and turning iron volume ON. Target separation even on partially masked small nuggets is really good. So is its ground handling considering it is single frequency. That same setup with disc. IAR on 1 or more and iron volume ON, makes the ORX a very capable 2 tone relic hunter using its Gold modes also.

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That is a really good point from Mudwhale and Basstrackerman. I stopped using the remote mounted on the telescopic shaft for most gold prospecting using Deus 1 and the ORX. I would do the same with Deus 2s remote if I had one. It is just too easy for these detectors to roll over and take a tumble on a boulder strewn talus slope or in a hilly forested area where the expensive remote can be easily damaged or worse, completely lost. I would rather damage or lose a $200 to $300 puck than a $500 to $700 remote.

I basically have had to resort to falling back on the ORX if I want to detect small gold with an XP detector at this point. Hopefully that will change. I hated to say what I said earlier but this is the prospecting section of this forum. I know full well that the Deus 2 is an incredible detector and I feel bad about even saying negative things about its performance. That was absolutely not what this topic was about. It was just an honest attempt to illustrate on paper how Deus 2's simultaneous multi frequency small gold performance is inexplicably below standard....that standard being its own Mono program and the Gold modes on the ORX and Deus 1 so that any potential Deus 2 buyers or current owners that also use it for gold prospecting would have a clear idea of what is realistic. The Legend and Equinox results were to show how close they are in performance, not how they blow Deus 2 out of the water. They don't blow Deus 1 and the ORX gold modes out of the water from my experience. I have found some very small gold with both that I was amazed at especially since there were hot rocks and small nail fragments in the scoop with some of those nuggets but there was enough non-ferrous information and tell-tale audio responses coming from the single freq. ORX to make me dig. I know you are fully aware of this so I won't be posting anything else about it. I try to keep it positive concerning Deus 2 whenever I can. It deserves it for sure in every other aspect of its performance from my experience.

I am under the impression that the processor for all functions/battery management, etc is in the coil, not the remote. So, what Gary is saying……you might want to listen to and try.

Garrett has always fixed my under warranty issues PLUS, they paid for shipping both ways when it was a covered repair.

No back light. Notching is limited to one notch instead of three and at least right now notch can’t be turned off. It stops at 00-00. Also, saved user programs are saved next to their original program instead of being saved in slots 13 through 24. Only one saved program per factory program which kind of sucks. Otherwise, WS6 is really amazing.

I have the Deus 2 Lite setup and am very happy with it. I had the full remote setup but realized that I didn’t need it for water work or diving and that only a couple of features were not on the WS6 unlike Deus 1 where the WS4 had a ton of limitations in comparison. I haven’t had any problems seeing the information on the WS6 enlarged display (compared to WS4) and making the target ID numbers be huge is really easy. I don’t like the older style buttons on the WS6, but everything else is a gigantic improvement over the Deus 1 WS4. The WS6 has everything I need. I have two different third party transmitters/headsets from Detech and also have Garrett’s Z-Lynk. I will eventually get the WSA lls. I really like the big remote but sold it more out of necessity than anything else……..I had some emergency home repairs that needed to be done this past summer so the big remote and a couple of other detectors got sold to help pay for those repairs. I figure I can always buy a used Deus 2 RC down the road if things change.

Those air test numbers are almost the same. Both detectors are also very similar as far as ground handling and hot rock recognition.

Sorry about the “Sad” emoji Chase, but I am done entertaining excuses and non-gold prospecting alternatives for a mode that XP decided was good enough to be designated as the FMF gold prospecting mode for Deus 2. I use a gold prospecting capable VLF for scouting new areas and for vacuuming up the sub gram nuggets in areas that I know can have small sub gram gold and in patches that I have worked in the past. They are also great to have around for dry washing and sluice tailings cleanup along with wiry, porous and specie gold. By “half assed” I am referring to the huge amount of sub .5 gram gold that Deus 2 FMF Goldfield simply won’t hit unless it is basically on or very near the surface. That sized gold is exactly the kind of gold I use a gold prospecting capable VLF for. The .5 gram and up size gold is pulse induction territory for me anyway. There is a transition “gray” area between .25 and .5 grams that I depend on my VLF for most of the time. Plus, having such great packability, versatility and superb ergonomics on paper make Deus 2 very appealing for any prospector. Personally, I am really glad XP included the FMF Relic mode which has excellent frequency weighting for most .5 gram and bigger coins and relics. Under .5 gram weight down to .01 gram weight is exactly what Deus 2 Goldfield should have been capable of and where Deus 1 and ORX Gold modes excel. It really struggles on .25 gram gold and smaller so basically, FMF Goldfield isn’t small gold nugget prospecting capable.

Yeah, hopefully they just somehow got the coil connector pinouts wrong. Easy fix if they have plenty of backup parts.

Simon, that is some really bad news for Nugget Finder. It’s not great news for end users either but at least anyone that has prepaid for one for some reason, should be able to get their money back. I am a big fan of Nugget Finder. I hope they can get it sorted out as painlessly as possible.