Rating The Tesoro Umax Models

[phrunt]

Except a lot of electronic components have "powered on hours" that they're expected to last. 

Here's a story on it regarding computer power supplies and capacitors

https://www.xppower.com/resources/blog/electrolytic-capacitor-lifetime-in-power-supplies

The placement of components matters too, as operating temperature can significantly shorten their life, and detectors in very hot desert climates with the sun beating on them are likely to last a shorter time than one in a cooler climate for this very reason.

So, Frank who goes out and uses his detector in the desert most days in it's black sealed housing to be waterproof with the sun beating on it is likely going to have a significantly shorter life of his detector than Robert who detects weekends randomly and does so in a the not so sunny Scotland looking for relics largely in a cloudy environment with blustery cool Scottish winds.

Some components can last as little as a few thousand hours in some conditions.

And this would be a warranty under a lifetime warranty.

[Steve Herschbach]

True Simon but fact is most detectors spend their hours in dark closets. ?

Seriously though Tesoro went under for only one reason. They basically stopped making new models. The Mojave took forever to appear, and really, it was just more of the same.

[Sven1]

And the Tesoro "Cazador" after a number of years, that everyone was waiting for, never materialized.

It never made it into production, they had no engineers to bring performance up to snuff. So it was quietly canned.

 

[D&P-OR]

On 7/16/2023 at 11:41 AM, phrunt said:

I'm surprised the Chinese Cloners never made them, they've duplicated many Whites models before and especially after their demise and the Tesoro's would be such an easy clone for them even with schematics floating around for models to make it even easier yet they never bothered.  I guess they just figured they're too outdated to make it worthwhile.    I expected when they went bust the cloners would go nuts making them but it never took place.  I guess they'll only clone what they think will sell well enough to make it viable and if they can't sell lots of them with their very cheap prices Tesoro had little hope in todays market. 

Part of that problem being the lifetime warranty, why buy new when a decade old second hand one is still under warranty forever so just as good as new.  Great for the customer, terrible for the business unless they're a very innovative business and new models obsolete old models so people want to upgrade, in their case little changed with models so they killed their own business.

FYI-----Tesoros lifetime warranty wasn't transferable to subsequent buyers.

[Magic12]

Why do the old detectors have long cables meters long

 

and any info big box bandido 2 vs bandido 2 umax

[Bill (S. CA)]

On 7/16/2023 at 9:32 AM, Steve Herschbach said:

Other way around. The business failed, then the building and contents were put up for sale.

Tesoro and White’s failed for basically the same reasons. The founding owners died and the kids took over. Nepotism is not a good formula for business successions, and businesses left to the kids fail more often than not. Rather than innovate to keep up with changing customer tastes, both doubled down on old designs, figuring they knew better than the customer what was needed. With Tesoro they resisted target id and more than basic tones. With White’s it was the big box design. The cell phone generation wanted cell phones on a stick, and the companies that delivered prospered. White’s was at least trying near the end, but Tesoro never did even that. As far as I know they did not even sell the name. The company just died and was left for bone pickers.

It really is a shame about Tesoro.  I did try to contact Jack Gifford's sons for an article that I wanted to write for the GPAA Magazine but neither responded to me.   Guess once the business died so did their interest.

I know it sounds dumb, but I've always wondered why no one ever considered releasing a vintage detector line.  For example, a company could buy several of the classic Tesoro designs and contract with a current company to make a run of them.  Probably too costly.  I was just thinking of how Troy pulled this off with his Shadows, designing the detectors and then having a company build them for him. 

[Rick N. MI]

The older Tesoro's could be hip mounted and needed the longer cable.

Bandido 2 umax is a highly desired detector for many and hard to get one. 

I have a Tesoro Tejon and a Lobo ST with internal ground balance adjusted. I will be hip mounting my Lobo ST.

[Jeff McClendon]

If I needed a Tesoro addiction fix (thankfully I don't), Deeptech sure makes some really nice detectors.

[Magic12]

The bandido 2 umax is better than the big box bandido 2?

am trying to find what is better option of the 2 something about the old circuit being better on the iron i read