goldbrick

Great relics, I like the old rim-fires and the slag pour particularly.

Thanks for the great answer Steve. I hope this thread dispels the fog surrounding this murky subject.

I often see posts on various forums where people use high GB phase numbers as examples of hot, mineralized ground. I thought that GB phase numbers are only indicative of the TYPE of ground(rock,soil,clay,salt). Rock, soil, and clay can actually be pretty benign or very mineralized. Isn't the determining factor for hot ground that affects metal detectors the amount of Fe3 in the soil? A phase reading of 89 may be mild soil if the amount of IRON in the soil is low. Conversely a phase reading of 65 may be very hot ground if the ground consists of clays with high iron content. Some VLF detectors now have Fe3 meters on them and the higher the reading is on that meter the more the ground will affect your detection depth and the accuracy of the VDI number(if supplied). It seems like many people are confused by this. I think it is important info that can affect your coil selection(size and type), the amount of discrimination you may choose to use, and the mode(all-metal or discriminate) that we run in. We need somebody that knows their stuff to give us a definitive answer!

Klunker, now you have let the cat out of the bag. Once people de-code your message to reveal the coords of the patch the place will look like it has been trampled by a buffalo herd! If you had worked harder at it and not napped most of the afternoon away you may have at least covered your fuel costs. LOL

A person does not want to approach a desert tortoise too closely. When frightened they may dump extra water they have stored in their bladder. This can lead to early death.

Paul, your extensive use of acronyms has left me feeling as if I am navigating in a dense fog. Sorry I can not be of help. You know how it always makes my day if I can school you on ANY topic. LOL Hopefully one of our high tech wizards that frequent these environs will endow you with the knowledge you desire.

Paul, just cause you are my buddy I was gonna offer you $500 for that Makro P.O.S. but I see by your photo you are $0.45 to the good so my new offer is $499.55. Oh yeah....you must pay shipping.

"Please, no rants, opinion, or anything off the topic." Jasong, you do realize this is a public forum? You may be asking too much? If I wanted the info you are asking for I would contact The PLP, AMRA, WMA, or Pacific Legal Foundation. Those folks collectively should possess info on enough government abuses (citations included) to keep you busy for a long, long time. I wish you the best of luck on your quest!

Congratulations on your first silver.

Good for you my friend. One less thing for me to worry about. Now just remember to take it with you. My 406 has a permanent home(pocket)in my back pack. My brother often has his attached to his prospecting suspenders.

Cabin Fever, thanks for the advice on the rod.

The shaft on the Infinium is a P.O.S., Garrett should hide their face in shame. I bought a $50 chinese detector for my kids that had a better shaft.

Cabin Fever, that is a nice job you did on your detector. I actually purchased a Tesoro Silver Sabre U-max detector on Steves recommendation. I just have not had the time to do the conversion. I think I may just make me a rod out of PVC to begin with. I wont be using it to detect, only as a discriminating pinpointer. My Tesoro was supposedly used but looks like it has never seen soil- a 1993 wayback machine. I just can't cut it up until I bang it up some. It's just to darn pretty. I am also interested in trying the 4" accessory coil out on some nail beds in stock configuration. I had to give $90 for the Tesoro 4" coil. How much was the NEL?

Be at war with your vices, at peace with your neighbors, and let every New Year find you a better man. ~ Benjamin Franklin (Poor Richard's Almanac, 1755)

1)Like Klunker I wish to find some pocket gold. 2)Find some gold using my new SDC2300. 3) Just spend some time reflecting and being thankful for all the wonderful people I know and the opportunities afforded me as a citizen of this great nation.

Jasong , thanks for the interesting post and video. I have been a subscriber of your you tube channel for awhile but must admit never spending much time on it. I think I will see what else you have on there that is interesting.

Paul, read the reviews. $150 per yr subscription on auto renew that is almost impossible to cancel. Looks like they have great marketing, so-so performance, and horrible customer service. I am keeping my 406 EPIRB. No monthly subscription and better performance.

Mike, this is an interesting post and a great review. Thanks for taking the time, I enjoyed learning about this machine.

Well said Paul. I like discrimination because every ferrous target I don't dig is time and energy saved to dig non-ferrous targets that hopefully are gold not bullets. I would spend good money on a PI/VLF hybrid. I think I would make my money back and more.

A little longer than that Mitchel. Supposedly get off that scow about January 29.

Don't count the Turks out. Quite a while back on this forum there was a post about what they intended to manufacture in the coming years and one item was a VLF/PI hybrid.

Hey Ray, you are correct about the Deus and new coil. I think it is going to be a great combo. My problem is I just like metal detectors. I like to learn about them, use them. I need another detector like I need a hole in the head but I would not be surprised if I don't buy one. Paul should have a used low hour Gold Racer for sale dirt cheap inside of 6 months so I will wait for it . Hi Mitchel, if this rain doesn't stop by the end of January look for me in Tuscon this year. I imagine you will be there?

Rick, you are 0-3, none of your guesses are correct. LOL I left the RV in Oregon because I did not want to tow over the Siskiyou Summit in the snow. I am holed up in a motel in Redding bored to tears. I thought the weather might break and I could get some detecting in but that is looking unlikely. I swing my bags over the bulwarks on the 23rd in Frisco bay. You just keep on lovin that gold bug buddy, I sold mine. Paul, thanks for all the up-beat advice. With friends like you........... Scott, I am glad you are an early adopter. Since you trashed the Deus as being unworthy of prospecting efforts in the northern counties I will know if you keep the Gold Racer I better save my pennies. Steve, thanks for the synopsis of the machine and its discrimination capabilities. I have pretty much decided to wait and see but hey! We need something to talk about when the weather sucks.

I was on fire to buy a Makro Gold Racer when it was announced they were finally going to be released. I mean who doesn't like having the latest and greatest? Since that time a little common sense has maybe crept into my purchasing decisions. I already own a Makro racer. When I first got the Racer I experienced many frustrating hours learning how to run it. He-hee - I already donned a Nomex suit before I typed that statement! I can already hear the flamers attacking me......"you dummy, the Racer you just turn it on, ground balance and go" or some variation of that. And they would be correct 90% of the time. Never have I owned a VLF detector that is so easy to operate. The Racer locks onto non-ferrous targets like my super magnet locks onto square nails. My frustration stemmed from my attempts to try recovering the final 10%. Those targets that are so compromised by ferrous masking that they are not obvious. With the Racer as with any VLF you get many high tone targets that could be non-ferrous targets but also could be iron falsing or wrap-around. In the beginning I felt I did good identify good targets versus iron in beds of nails. Targets were obvious and the Racer did not false too much as long as I kept the sensitivity under control. It was in areas where there were many disintegrated cans (flat iron) that I felt like bending the Racer around the nearest oak tree. These flat pieces of iron just sounded so good to my untrained ears and the VDI often lumped the numbers into the dreaded 82-83 range so it was no help. More than once I put the Racer away and used my Deus instead. Finally I got mad and determined I would never understand the Racer unless I kept after it regardless of the conditions. Now, I am happy to report after many hours of swinging the Racer the light bulb finally came on and I sort of understand the Racers language in cans. Oh, I still dig a lot of flat iron with it but I do so knowing that is what the target will likely be. I just keep hoping one of those targets will be a big nugget or a gold coin compromised by iron. For my VLF gold detector I want a machine that has kick a$$ discrimination so I can take it places I fear to tread with my Pulse Induction, namely old habitations around gold workings and/or trashy hard rock mines. You can keep your GB II with crummy iron discrimination and lack of GB options. Yes it is the king of fly-poop and that is great for some people but not for me. (flamers please be gentle) I like gold I can hear in the bottle. So maybe the Gold Racers 56 khz is not as important to me as some other features may be. The iSAT/iMASK might tip me over the edge in favor of the Gold Racer if it handles bad ground much better than regular Racer. I apologize for the lengthy preamble. The meat of this post are the questions "will the Gold Racer at 56 khz be worse at identifying flat iron than the original Racer at 14khz?" and " does the Gold Racer with iSAT/iMASK handle bad ground better than a typical VLF ergo regular Racer to justify the expense of switching machines?" Recently a well respected relic hunter(Keith) posted this on another forum in reference to Gold Racer. "Thanks for the tip.. Another one I might add is Stay out of Tin loaded 1880s type sites...LOL!! Ouch, those are my favorite type of spots. So Steve, Keith, or any one else that has ran both these machines, have you done any head to head testing or do you have any opinions/answers to my questions? Thanks in advance, Merton

Paul, I see you on the right, my question is who is the geek on the left? LMAO Seriously, thank you for what you have done and continue to do my friend.