abenson

I've had the same issue with 2 of my batteries. It seams to happen when they get charged. They're working fine and then you charge it and they're all of a sudden bad. I had 2 go out back to back and figured it was the charger. So I bought a new charger and no problems since. I fix both batteries with a repair kit sold by a company in Australia. I can probably find the info if you like. If you're not good and electronic repairs you can probably find a local shop to do the repair with the kit. Kit has all the instructions.

Here's what I use. Monoprice, same as the Tarsacci. I like them because they sound good and I can mount the module right on the headphone to keep the wire out of the way. Also they plug straight into the module without have to add an adapter.

Nice bunch of tokens. I love finding tokens, Congratulations!

When both these new machines are available to the public I would beware of any initial claims of one being better than the other right out of the gate. Or better/worse than the Equinox. I think any testers that release any head to head comparisons better have at least 50 plus hours on either the Legend or Deus 2 before any conclusions are drawn. I know personally I had my I initial doubts about the Equinox being anything special. Kept going back to the trusty Deus because I couldn't wrap my head around the multi IQ. Could be the same with either the Deus 2 or Legend. Especially with the Deus 2, looking through all those programs available can be a little intimidating. But the real performance will come from all the backend adjustments you can make to the stock programs. That isn't something you can learn in a few hours. There's going to be a lot of YouTubers trying to be the first to post results. Anything more than open box reviews are goung to be highly suspect. It's not like we're getting a simple Vanquish or Apex this time around. Turn on and go will probably work for some stock programs. But like I said the magic is in all those other adjustments that can be made and those need to be implemented over hours and hours of field use. I personally never use stock programs on either the Deus or the Equinox anymore. Learn the machine with the stock programs and then open it up and see what it can really do. Look forward to the seeing and using the new machines. It's going to be an exciting end to 2021.

Nokta Makro probably just obsoleted all their other detectors with the Legend. I can see owning a Simplex at $254 but why would you buy an Anfibio $765 or Kruzer at $635 when you probably have all the features of those 2 packed into the Legend Pro and then some at $765. I had a multi Kruzer and only ever used 3 and 4 tone modes.

where was the live event? I registered for it and got no notice via the email I used.

Thanks for all the comments. It was a fun hunt and one I won't forget.

Last week I spent the whole week in Virginia at the Diggin in Virginia Event. DIV 50 was spread over 4 different farms which comprised of thousands of acres. 5 days 10 hours a day metal detecting, what a dream. I don't attend too many metal detecting events, it's just not me. But DIV is different and offers sites you just can't get on otherwise. Now although some of these farms have been hit by DIV upwards of 10 times, they are still giving up relics. Most of the DIV digs take place in Culpeper County Virginia and is known for it's very hot dirt. VLF detectors struggle in this environment so a PI like the GPX, TDI or ATX are preferred. But you always get the person that can't afford or is unwilling to spend the money to rent or buy a PI and will take a go at it with a VLF. DIV 50 was no exception. I saw many people metal detecting with VLF's I even had a gent check a target for me in the woods that was using a White 6000 DI. I had just dug part of a Shako hat pin and got another signal under a tree root and couldn't tell if it was big iron or big brass (the rest of the hat pin) so had him check it for me, it turned out to be iron. So VLF's will do ok in the woods or in thick iron patches, but out in the fields it's GPX all the way. Right tool for the right job, so come prepared. I always take the GPX and either the Deus or Equinox as backup. If you decide to go, make sure you know your metal detector well. We talked to a group that all had GPX's and didn't find a single relic. They spent their time digging nails. It doesn't matter if you have the best metal detector in the world, if you don't know how to use it, chances are you aren't going to find good stuff. That goes for VLF detectors as well. If you know your machine you can find stuff in the hot Culpeper dirt. Knowing your machine and how to make changes for the soil can mean the difference between success and failure. On this particular DIV, it being 50, some of us figured it may be the last. So my group decided to concentrate on the fields where we knew the Confederates camped prior to the Union Army moving in for the Winter of 1863-64. Other than going to a Union Camp for a day where you have a chance at digging some nice bottles of finding a whole Shako hat pin. We spent our time on a strip of land that boarders a creek where the Confederates camped. On day 2 we went to a part of the farm we hunted last Fall and was finding Gardner, ring tail sharps and 69 caliber round balls. These are all considered bullets used by the Confederates. the camp was located on a hillside that sloped toward a wash that ran into the creek. Last year I hunted that wash and was finding numerous 69 caliber round balls in and amongst the modern fencing and wire pieces. So I decided to hunt my way down the hill towards the bottom of the wash. As I approached the bottom of the wash I started hearing all the wire signals on my GPX and slowed down to investigate each one. I finally got a good solid signal and dug a ring tail sharps. Next signal not more than than 2 feet from the sharps bullet I got a signal that sounded like wire but wouldn't break up so I decided to dig it. When I got down about 12 inches I got my pin pointer out and got a signal in the bottom corner of the hole. I though due to it's orientation in the hole it was most likely a piece of wire. But got my hand digger out anyway to complete the recovery of the target. To my surprise it was a CS tongue, I never in my wildest dreams ever thought I would find one. To make things even better I got the excavation of it on video. Some other highlights of the trip were finding fuses for artillery shells, artillery shell fragments and one of the other guys in my group found a pewter CS saddle shield which is also a very rare find. I had a great time and have made some good friends at DIV over the years. There are a great bunch of people that put together DIV and an even greater bunch of people that attend them. Some of these people have been attending since the very first one and are willing to share their knowledge with anyone who asks.

Yea I prefer the WM08 plugged into a good pair of headphones. The wireless headphones just have to much delay for my liking. Tried to use the Minelab supplied headphones about a week ago and it drove me nuts. It's almost like the audio blanks out at times.

My Equinox isn't going anywhere even though I plan on getting the Deus. The Equinox is a proven performer.

The technology is already there for divers to communicate with each other under water. I would assume XP is using similar technology for the coil and remote to communicate.

Price above $1500 wouldn't surprise me either. The Deus 2 looks to be in a league of it's own. Given Nokta Makro may have something up their sleeve. But it's highly unlikely going to be wireless and waterproof. The Deus 2 just may be the only general purpose metal detector anyone needs.

Pretty dang amazing. The waterproof wireless totally caught me off guard. Now what's the price? Looking forward to getting my hands on the new Deus 2.

Like you said most of these improvements are decades away. I'm specifically talking about the 2 new SMF machines about to be released. I'm certainly not afraid to dream. In fact totally the opposite. I could be wrong but seems like most companies are simply playing catch up and follow the leader. We will find out later today just how innovative XP really is. Will it trump the Equinox? I hope so!!!

Ya know that more of think about these new SMF metal detectors coming out the more I think what's the point of getting yet another metal detector. How much better can they really be than what's already on the market? Especially the Equinox. Don't get me wrong I'm excited to see what each will do and I've already pretty much committed to getting the Deus 2 unless the price is too high. Ok so we already know that there's no perfect detector. Some have features that others don't and vica verse. But as far as performance goes, just how much better can we expect over the Equinox? Short of a PI the Equinox is by far the deepest in my mineralized soil. In mild soil the depth for most detectors is pretty close. How much better can the target ID get than say the Equinox, etrac/CTX or a V3i? Now granted the Deus is a very fast machine but so are the Nokta Makro machines. More so than the Equinox. But set up correctly the Equinox is no slouch. So how much faster at target separation can we expect without sacrificing depth. I've done countless comparisons between practically every detector available in real life situations. Truth be known 90% of all the targets we seek can be found with most modern detectors in normal non specialized sites. By specialized I mean saltwater beaches, prospecting or very high mineralization. So I ask again what's the point of getting yet another metal detector that might be say 1% better than what's already available? I guess it's like a new car. The 10 year old one will get you from point A to point B just as good as a new one. But it sure is nice driving a new car with all the modern bells, whistles and a new warranty.

Totally agree! I can't see the need for the original Deus if the Deus 2 will do everything it will and more. I'm willing to pay $1500 for the Deus 2. If it's more than that I think I would sit out the initial release and wait for the reviews to come in. It would need to replace both my Equinox 800 and Deus to justify a price over $1500 for me personally.

Yea I think NM made a big mistake offering the Simplex with all its features at such a low price. I've seen it cannibalize its upper end models since it's release. Having owned both Racer models, the Inpact and the Multi Kruzer. After getting a Simplex I personally see no reason the buy their upper end machines. The Simplex offers everything I'm interested in as far as the current single frequency NM models go. The SMF may change that.

There are things to be desired from the Equinox. Hopefully the Equinox 1000 will address a few of those things. Of all the manufactures, I think XP has the best chance of meeting or exceeding the performance of the Equinox. I for one will be getting the Deus 2 as soon as one is available. I don't necessary care about waterproof, although it would be nice. If the Deus 2 is lighter, quicker and does as good of job with target ID as the Equinox. Then IMO we have a serious competitor. The next serious competition I feel will come from Nokta Makro. I've owned and still own one of their machines. My problem is that I've never been able to bond with them. Although I think they are great and I've found some good stuff with the ones I have owned, they just simply are not my first choice when I get to a site. I would love to try the the new SMF when it comes out. But I'll probably wait for others to report on it before I make a purchase decision. Hopefully Garrett can pull a rabbit out of their hat with their next attempt at SMF. It would be nice to see an American company stay in the rankings and offer some serious competition. They've got the ergonomics down. Now let's see some performance for us serious detectorist. I worry about Fisher....... with what's been said on the Fisher forum I have some doubts that they will be offering anything substantial anytime soon. 2022 is goung to be an exciting year. I look forward to reading everyone's reviews of the new products that are coming soon.

They probably figured they better get with it given XP is releasing their SMF soon.

I wonder what they plan to price this machine at? Hopefully not a couple grand. I can possibly see it pushing $1500 to put it above the Deus. But it could also replace the Deus. And it will most likely be priced above the ORX. Then you also have to consider the competition, mainly Minelab! The Equinox is submersible, the Deus 2 likely will not be submersible but may be weatherproof. So maybe it will be priced closer to the 800. I'd be happy to see a price around $1000

Deus 2 on the box and it looks like a multi frequency I can see MF on the corner of the box.

I like the 5 x 10 and it took me quite a while to get ahold of one. I've been using it at ghost towns and with the right settings it does pretty good. I had the 15" and didn't care for it. Too heavy and no depth advantage over the 11". I have mineralized soil though and big coils often times result in little to no depth advantage here. Can't see any point in the 9x14 especially if it weighs more than the 12x15 coil. So for me it's the 6, 5x10 and 11" if I need more depth I just grab a PI.

Agree without going into the details. I would also say the Equinox 600.

Fisher has not made any real advancements for decades now. They don't offer rechargeable batteries or wireless headphones. Sure you can add both these with aftermarket options. For the price there are better options available.

Your asking a lot for a $450 machine. There aren't many metal detectors in that price range that I would even consider. Fisher is too behind the times, Whites is out of business and XP is priced too high. So that leaves Garrett, Minelab and Nokta Makro. Yea you might consider some other brands that do exist but lets just stick with the main stream stuff. Garrett at $450 and under offers the Ace series which includes the Apex. So of the Ace series only the Apex is in the running IMO. Nokta Makro only has the Simplex. Minelab has basically the Vanquish series. You mentioned you want separation, mineralization and beach handling capabilities. What I don't know is are you taking about saltwater beaches or fresh water beaches because that will change my recommendation. So I'll make a pick for both. BTW I have owned or still own all 3 machines in question. Starting with fresh water beaches. The Simplex is hands down the best alternative and here's why. The Simplex is waterproof, handles mineralization quite well and offers the best target separation of the 3. My ground is 4-5 bars on the F75 and of the all single frequency machines out there (including the XP Deus/ORX) is handles my mineralization the best. By best I mean both runs quiet and offers exceptional depth. In the target separation tests I've done the Simplex is lightning fast compared to the Apex or Vanquish. For $450 you can have wireless headphones and 2 coils. Now saltwater beaches. I will say up front that I haven't tried the Simplex on a saltwater beach. But by default I would rule it out simply because it's single frequency and historically multi frequency machines perform better that single frequency machines in saltwater environments. So of the Apex and the Vanquish it's honestly a toss up but I would lean more towards the other in 2 different scenarios. If you're strictly after depth I would lean toward the Apex simply because it has bigger coils available and from everything I've seen the MS feature on the Apex is right on par with the Vanquish depth wise coil size to coil size. However, I haven't had the chance to work the Apex on a black sand beach. The Vanquish I've had on Southern California black sand beaches and it performs quite well. So the Vanquish might have to be the choice when you add black sand. In scenario 2 on saltwater beaches, which is trash handling I think I would have to go with the Vanquish. Neither one is outstanding at target separation. When all targets are placed on a flat plain like a nail board test the Apex slightly out performs the Vanquish with 5x8 coils installed if I recall right. But when places in a 3D situation the Vanquish MF outperforms the Apex. I would assume this carries over to larger coils, I could be wrong. Since the beach is more likely to be a 3D scenario. then the Vanquish becomes the obvious choice. Now the last thing to consider when looking at the Apex and Vanquish 540 for saltwater beach hunting is the price. For $438 you can get he Apex with the larger 8.5x11 coil. The Minelab Vanquish comes in at $369 with the 9x12 coil.