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Humm I’m wondering who ya sent the AQ to? Thou I likely know. Man it’s hunting time hope ya got more machines. I’ve still got three…. Just got n case.

These are my finds for the day. Absolutely brutal out there today. The heavy winds we blowing right into shore creating one heck of a pull out current and raised the TID by a good 3’. The waves were tuff. I saw about 8 other hunter but only 3 of us got in. Coil control went out the window in the shallow especially. Did about 4 hours and that all I wanted since I got 1 gold… 6.7 grams 10k, silver toe ring, want to be nugget ring, and a TI. For the conditions…. a real good day. The other was a keeper the last day of May I believe. Beauty.

Dangggggg. They did a job on it. Sorry for your loss. I’ve always covered my speaker even on my dirt machines…. and just never used um anyway. Speaker may or may not leak… but I never took the chance. Just like drilling a drain hole at the bottom of the lower shaft for sand and water to escape. Hope everything turns out for you Thomas. Shipping now days is crazy and expensive.

Been there awhile too by the pitted stone. Just a great find.

I’ll dig a few bottle caps.... mostly deep ones. The machine seems to break up into three tones ... definitely iron -27..... wrap around +27ish.... and those in that 23-25 which are normally corona style. Deep ones I think the MDT gives enough info to tell you there is some iron there. It seems better than most machines at IDing iron to detector depth.

I throw one in the car. Ya the lith are hot ... get a little water in or both ends touch metal ... who knows. I hunt about 7 or 8 hours battery has more than enough to do that it seems.

When I first started he gave me extra O rings and provided the size on both which I posted on Tom’s site. He has been extremely helpful to me and very generous with information. He’s pretty quick about repairs even with his busy life. Hope yours gets back quickly. Wasn’t that something hitting the screen with a hammer?

Ive not known ANY designer to personally take the time Demitar does to talk to you about ANY problems.... especially those that might be systemic. Hes obsessive about this machine. Anyone who has or has seen this machine can see the build quality. With the website now we have a place to ask questions. Nothings flawless.... and there is no environment as harsh as beach and salt water hunting with the sun, sand and salt water. Im the hardest guy out there on machine repairs.... thou im old and slacking up lol. If it can break ive done it. So i plan for repairs. Price.... if the Nox hadnt came out with its price tag no one would think twice about the price of this machine..... ie the Xcal is about the same price with only a year warranty. Or there is the CTX or even the less used CZ.

I also like the way Keith runs it in AM using -30 ... that keep iron from doing a lot of wrapping around into that +28 range. I’ve often hunted that away in AM when I used to do park hunting with other machines like the Explorer.

Bob. Some of that noise if you are hunting our local area is bit of iron stone. Gets caught up in the mass amount of seaweed we sometimes get ... and having high bank shore lines don’t help. A good many machines will false running across the grain. As far as the Us....keep in mind a majority of PI used in the salt water have a setting 15 Us and above. So you have some room to play. Good to see you are back out there with the machine.

Squeaky wheel gets the grease. A lot will depend on how many he sells to dirt diggers, just like the changes made, i think, to waterproofing it for the beach guys. Changes cost money..... do them to quickly and you can end up with a lot of repairs as well. One of the great advantages we have is Demitar is an avid hunter as well. Even as a dirt hunter i found those tiny coils didnt give me a huge advantage if the standard coil (a lot of times 10") could be adjusted .... like lowering the sensitivity to work an area. Target separation has come a longgggg way as well and we went digital which keeps improving. The next question is HOW MUCH ARE YOU WILL TO PAY. In most cases.... we have a second machine that works as well or better in those difficult areas that already has a small coil. Notice also we got the 12" without a coil cover, that you will have to buy otherwise we might not still have gotten the coil. Difficult times with a lot of stuff coming from China.

Demitar has been OUTSTANDING to me. Ive had a few issues, hes always helped solve um. The battery cap where it didnt turn on or would go off he helped me on. A little thicker washer and a not so tight screw solved it. Theres ALWAYS going to be repairs for us beach guys who use the machines a lot if we get um wet... and some with prolonged issues near the surf... thats just electronics. I like that Demitar wants to know how the machine is working and anything to do with repairs. Get-er fixed Thomas... recent drop time is coming fast with our water temps here being in the low 80s. At least ya go those Xcals. I sold 2 kept one of the moded blues and still have the Nox... thou im not sure why since i like those Xcals too. My Nox went south just before the warranty did with a bad battery and stress fractures in the screw holes.... ML replaced it.... but i dont think ive used it but a very few time since getting the MDT. Last repair with the Xcal... i had like 3 coils, all new or fairly new, had one of those cable issues... then found out ALL those coils i had stored the cables split.... ugh. I was lucky that Joe had one he put on for me. I honestly should sell them both and do what you did get a second MDT. But ya never know about the production AQ or a new flag ship ML... so i keep putting it off.

The Xcal has the shortest warranty.... 1 year. Im to lazy to go out and disconnect my coil.... so ill ask you Thomas, do the MDT come on with the coil NOT connected.... i know some machines wont. If this one dont.... could be some salt water corrosion... either in the coil or connector to the box. We had a little in the headphone area before using teflon tap there. If i remember correctly you dont really use yours much IN the water. Ive used mine so much i cant hardly read those buttons now lol. Let us know about the fix.... obviously those of us who have had them beyond the warranty date like to know repair costs.

AMAN to the first of us having a learning curve Aaron. I think i even surprised Tom when i said .... it doesnt appear 12 and 18khz are going to be as effective as the lower khz IN the deeper salt water...... because the SB seemed to change the deeper you went out there. One thing that throw me initially also was .... the machine only gave you so long to make that adjustment before it switched back to hunt mode. Id be fiddling and realize .... ops no changes were being made. You may sell a few of those cards..... but after a few hunts out there you wont need them. Again, like Aaron said its a real KISS machine getting around the settings.

Mixed mode .... which isnt offered by a lot of machines does offer the best of both worlds..... locate a targets... and quickly ID it as iron or non-ferr. You have a little advantage over me in that a good bit of the time i cant see the screen. So mixed mode is just another button push on a fairly small button. Personally i rarely use the PP button and wished the disc button was a bit larger especially in the winter when you might wear water gloves. Again, i think this machine offers a lot and brings back the fun in learning it.

The machine is built as solid as they come. Headphones.... i use Tony Eisenhowers which have piezos for water hunting because of the modulation. But if i was dirt hunting id use a good pair of dirt phones with speakers. Adjustments you may have to play with.... will be Black sand, Salt balance, and Threshold. Everything else is pretty straight forward. There are 4 tones.... pings and pongs... again something you may have to get used to... i did. The screens a bit more jumpy.... but it really hits solid on a target. Im an AM hunter so the screen nor the tones affect me.... im just after depth as a beach guy. There is only 1 notch so disc isnt as good as say the Nox with a digit by digit disc. I run my machine with -30 disc like Keith.... i hear everything in AM but it makes a lot of tiny iron and minerals more of a pop than a false tone and keeps the iron from wrapping around better. Over a target i dont do a lot of fast swings.... this machine you put it on the target and barely move it.... that wiggle. Id loved to have had this machine when i was doing old homes and field hunting.... i still remember the hot rock and null from an Explorer. I dont comment much on dirt hunting simply because i dont do much of it now days. However, i traveled full time for several years hunting... and used to do a lot of old parks in Indy as well as field hunting and old home sites. Ive got a little over 2 years on the machine as a beach hunter.

Way to go Bob. I know you are glad just to have the machine back and out there in the water. Congrats on that beauty especially right now when things are tuff out there. See ya on the beach buddy

Is that coil connector a SOLID piece? I wouldnt want it drilled from just one side. Ive found when using those spring clips a single will allow movement with torque no matter the shaft lock over time it will wear. To me it seems a little epoxy added would do the job along with just one of those pins. Sometimes chit happens. Havent seen Orka Gold post about his lower shaft that didnt come with his small coil yet either .... they seem slow on repairs but this may well be the times we are living in currently. Its taking longer on a lot of things now days.

I’m not sure there’s a part I’ve not broken on a water machine. Joe knows me best he’s fixed a lot of um for me. I’ve split coils, broken ears, shafts, cuffs.... but hey from it all I’ve learned a lot. I can also say I never broke anything to my knowledge when dirt hunting. That’s why I’ve always said .... plan for ... stuff breaks in the water especially... thank goodness we find some gold.

TVR.... are you sure about the cable going on the back? It appears both could ..... we used to do that with the DFX coils. But.... that cross over that aids in PP looks to go in the front. Maybe im wrong. Dang Bob, its been an ordeal for you the last year or so with equipment. Let me know how that 8" works. A lot of PIs used to come with those 8" coils for water hunting. Id still prefer a 9 or 10" one.

Joe ... people want what people want. We are lucky being beach hunters.... it may take awhile but we pay for them. I’m sure Fisher has done the bean counting and likely gets better rates. That was crazy for those caps.

Im really not seeing the big deal. Testing is done as are improvements for the Limited..... if someone has the xtra chance to buy one including shipping and Fisher has met the obligation with Rick and still has some why not pass them on at this point? Seem like a good gesture since the production model is going to be pricy to them. ALSO.... what if they find issues that we didnt have?

It appears to be setting up nicely for a digital version..... that IMO will be when the magic happens. I for one appreciate Alexandres efforts on this machine. This needed to be done because a PI will get us where we want to be faster than a VLF thats watered down for Multi use. It maybe a niche machine..... but once they go digital that all could change and could very well get a little competition going..... thats where we win.

Chase I think they were just dotting their eyes to ensure those who might want one of the limited in lieu of or in addition to the production model. There were some who had waited a long time and may feel the lower price tag still makes it worth getting. I do believe they might have gotten a few more out. But that as they say is history. IF they really want to sell them I still hear some overseas guys want them.

I got one as well. But I had to pass for the reasons I mentioned previously. I am wondering .... what if people don’t like the price on the new machine think Fisher would still let loose of some limited ones which obviously won’t have upgrades? Maybe Thomas or Joe can tell us how that 8” compares depth and noise wise in the water? Joe you still got a “shut my mouth” rule? Ya know I didn’t ask.... but I wonder what the price of the limited might be with the 8” coil over the standard.... or if they would even do that?