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Well, that is the equation. Reasonable coverage or lots of digging. I can remember days where I did not walk down the beach even 100yds and after 4 hours was exhausted after working the Sovereign in pinpoint mode [Very PI like] I usually had a big bag of chit junk and coins and the occasional goodie. Now I do the whole 1.5 miles of beach daily in 4 hours. My good finds are up, and my body likes me more. Hummmm. Depth....not losing that much!

All I hunt is beaches. I hunt in the Horseshoe mode 1 tone. I like hearing the full information of every target in one tone. Also, my goal is not to have my machine "sing" at me. Second goal, to identify targets as ferrous or nonferrous. ALL nonferrous targets come out, period.

Well. I will be back on my machine soon. After a week back in, I will do just this. I will change the machine over manually to accept everything. It would be obvious to me really quick if there were operational differences. I will call it Jeff beach day!!! 😁 YES

Interesting. I find in Horseshoe mode that the separation between Ferrous and Non-Ferrous becomes more pronounced. There is, without question an increase in depth ability. When you do this, do you need to be in two tones? Other than the obvious [hearing ferrous] Do you notice other performance factors?

OK, define nothing rejected? Would you be running in Horseshoe mode? Or just typical ferrous bin rejected?

So curious? If you were on a wet salt beach. What settings would you have had?

That might be perceived. But just because the default discrimination beach modes might be slightly quieter to EMI, do not expect better depth performance as compared to Horseshoe mode. If in horseshoe mode Jeff, shallow targets which double ring with minus numbers, that target is ferrous 100% of the time. Non-Ferrous targets do have the ability to double ring. But it will be a very shallow target with all positive numbers.

I see when he switched to Beach 1 the EMI was less. I think the test is a fair one. EMI be darned. Two detectors in the same spot same target. One lost. I have heard that Deus2 pretty chirpy too in some EMI tests. I would bet that I could of heard that ring in horseshoe mode on the Equinox and made a 100% ID of a non-ferrous target.

Let's cut to the chase Jeff. The Equinox got it's ACE handed to it in this test!!!!!!!!!!!

It seems as years go by, that some are obsessed with having an exact Tid number . Which I think is a mistake. Mentioned before, but I only hunt in one tone at the beach. But my personal accept mode is anything +1 and greater. If there is one thing to be learned on the Equinox it is, numbers cannot be trusted. Especially in: Mineralization, EMI, Salt Water contact, Depth, trash, and some days just because. How will the Deus do on Tid? I suspect it will struggle in some areas too.

One item I picked up. The tester said the Equinox was at 23 sensitivity, And the Legend was "maxed out" on sensitivity.

They must be releasing NDA'S..........

Do preset beach programs already have discrimination values on the Deus2? There is no all meatal mode on the machine? Thanks

As a long time hunter, performance is #1. Weight is of the machine is WAY down the checklist.

Nice concept!!

I think that is a very reasonable assessment for many of us who have been detecting a while. If I were to put in 5, four-hour beach hunts I could tell the basic strengths of a machine. But to truly master it, would take much longer.

Yes, for some of us who have been around for some time understand this but for new people is needs to be mentioned. I think your example of interference/noise is a perfect one! If you are not moving your detector the interference is EMI. If you are moving your detector and you have interference it is Ground Balance issues or too much sensitivity.

Then one needs to be proficient enough to know the difference between Ground noise and EMI.

In your case, that extra sensitivity is going to find you more! No doubt about it!

I am going to go out on a limb, that from this point forward in history it will be very difficult to out do/out smart factory preset modes in most cases. With today's processors and more complicated processes, there are just too many built in issues to overcome for a button tweaker.

Not bad, considering the EMI that is present. Which no doubt is killing some depth.

Sadly, I called this over a year ago. A friend of mine really wanted one and I talked him out, now he thanks me all the time. I have not all lost hope though. The developer stated he had two other versions above the one released. I would bet that if we see something from the boys at Fisher on this platform it would be much better.

It is one thing beach hunters notice that the Equinox runs quieter in the tracking mode. I am not surprised. Were you able to up your sensitivity at all in any of your different spots?

In the early days of the Equinox, I ran GB 0 at the beach. Because people said "you could". In those early days I chased numerous ghost signals. I now rarely do I get a deep ghost running in Tracking GB. Wish I could help more but I feel ghost signals with the Equinox just happen. Possible it might be ferrous targets that are very degraded with large halo effect. Then when one digs the whole item just disappears?

Yup, me. Message sent to your business email. Dave