Chase Goldman

Really? How do you do that?

Same here.

The only ones I have been able to find are the Panasonic BTG-S10's (link below) which were expensive and I think out of production now. Otherwise, none other listed on the Qualcomm APTX product listing site (filter on APTX LL and headphones). https://www.aptx.com/products/panasonic-btg-s10-bone-conduction-headset

Because of the way ML marketed the Equinox, it is a common misconception that the 5 through 40 khz single frequency components are what are combined to create the multifrequency spectrum of the equinox. That has been proven by third party spectrographic measurements to simply not be the case. In other words, 5 khz single frequency and it's performance has nothing to do with how Multi behaves. Do some searches on the forum (e.g., Equinox multi frequency spectrum - one example from this very thread below) and you will learn that the multi spectrums have little if anything to do with the any of the single frequency components. They are comprised of combinations of two or three odd frequencies that do not line up with the single frequency settings. Frankly, whatever the chosen single frequency components that comprise the various Multi frequency mode spectrums is not as important as the signal processing algorithms which also differ from mode to mode. 4 khz is also noticeably quieter than 5 khz which leads me to believe that Minelab is field testing a new signal processing algorithm to reduce noise overall and may incorporate that algorithm (not 4 khz) into a future iteration of Multi IQ. Depth is so dependent on so many variables that it really can't be ascertained by what people think is in the ground and their anecdotal field performance. There are no guarantees that you will find things at 12 inches and that is really pushing it for an 11 inch coil anyway in nominal ground. I can tell you that I have had highly variable depth performance with Equinox including finds exceeding 15 inches in wet sand and nothing deeper than 3 or 4 inches after hours of repeated hunting at some highly mineralized relic sites. The Equinox is no better or worse on simple detection depth performance than any other modern vlf out there. They all perform about the same for a given coil size within an inch or so. Effective depth, the depth at which a target can be accurately ID'd vs. simply detected (beeped) is the thing that varies most from detector to detector. The Equinox seems to be above average in that regard. HTH

Excellent find. Keep hitting that site.

I’d do it if they took the Pro-find 35 off the list.

A number of great “pro tip” detecting nuggets in this post.

Bingo!

Simon - The context I answered your question was from the perspective of the typical Ace user. Not you nor me. This person typically does not have unlimited means to own mini - monsters or detectors north of $5K US or to get a Vanquish for primarily coinshooting a favorite football pitch site or in my case to get a Tarsacci simply to see what it can do, not because I need one. They are looking for value, 2 x $400 is a lot of money to them. The are looking for a performance/feature bump and ease of use and have jobs that limit their detecting time in the field, so don't have the luxury of learning the ins and outs of a top end detector even if they could afford one. Simply looking to take their detecting to the next level but not necessarily to the pinnacle of detecting, so it IS likely they will only stick with Apex. It will meet their needs even if it wouldn't meet ours. They are not detector nerds and they are probably brand loyal to a fault. They may see no need to go beyond the AT Max. They are not you and me, but they are likely the majority of detectorists out there. You understand and focus on the detector not the typical detectorist and that is why you have trouble understanding why they WOULDN'T pay double the Apex price for a better detector. We are the outliers. Chase

I want to like the above two posts but I'm on "like" probation until tomorrow. (Thanking too many people on their response to my odd 2-cent piece beach find). See how I turned that into cheap self promotion. Anyway, in focusing on Simon's comment, I forgot to also thank Walt for his review and congrats on the nice finds. Nail board tests etc. notwithstanding - the Apex will hold its own under most detecting situations based on what I have seen of the unbiased "real world" in-the-field videos so far. But there are definitely higher priced detectors that do beat it on separation, discrimination, tones, and other features such as multiple SMF profiles.

2 reasons both related to the Value that the Apex brings to the table vs. similarly priced competition: #1 - Having a stable beach detector (a la Vanquish) #2 - Getting a relatively inexpensive detector that you can run over a range of individual frequencies (a la Equinox 600, but $250US cheaper). I know I sound like a broken record, but people are really sleeping on this feature which I consider even more significant than SMF on the Apex and something (along with the ability to ground balance) that the Vanquish does not have. Also, wireless audio is really starting to become a popular and standard feature the Ace series does not have without investing another $100 in a 3rd party or Garrett wireless bolt on accessory. Overall, features wise, it is a pretty signficant upgrade over the older Aces without much additional investment. Not a bad move for an existing Ace user and they still have the Ace as a backup.

Pretty sure XP beat them by about a year with the USB rechargeable, wireless connected, PI MI-6 pinpointer. As Steve stated, Detectorpro beat everone to the PI-based pinpointer.

Yep, this is a fairly common problem. In some detectors such as the XP Deus, adding some discrimination, while still allowing the iron to be heard via iron volume helps to mitigate this phenomenon versus running with zero disc.

https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Andres-pencils-fantastic-cleaning/dp/B076GNXD35

So far, Andre’s Pencils and some Scrubbing Bubbles solution. Will take any advice for further cleaning the obverse crud, but may just leave well enough alone at this point as the detail is mostly sufficient and still retains some of its “dug” patina personality.

I knew you’d ask that, so thanks for not disappointing me, Chuck. Still working on the obverse crud on the motto, but the “IN GOD” portion looks like large motto, but not disappointed in the least. A little GB Amateur inspired numismatic history on the coin... 1864 being the largest mintage of the 95% copper coin at 19.8M (with an undetermined minority number of the Small Motto variety), it is not surprising most found are 1864. That mintage steadily decreased to only 65,000 in 1873, its last year of circulation mintage. Over 17M of the total 45M minted for circulation were returned to the mint, melted down and used as planchet stock for pennies. The two cent piece was struck in response to the massive hoarding of all US coinage during the US Civil War and as a counter to the privately struck bronze trade tokens that were commonly used at that time for commerce in response to the hoarding.

No, salt bay.

Got out for some mind clearing routine dry and wet sand beach hunting, hoping some late season gold drops would grace my scoop. Was using the Deus in full tones, 9" round HF coil, 14khz full tones as that combo really helps ID aluminum trash well. Was digging the requisite clad and junk jewelry and other odds and ends and scooped "called" pull tabs and crown caps, just to be sure. I've found that being able to call the target on sand doesn't mean I won't scoop it. It just sets the proper expectation when you pull that crown cap or pull tab out of the scoop. Got an odd high 70's hit and saw a round quarter sized target on the sand caked in sand and corrosion. I thought that target sure didn't ring up like a coin much less a quarter, and I was right. It wasn't a quarter...a closer look revealed a shield and a date - "1864" through the pale green crud which must have been affecting the signal. Sure enough, I dug my first 2 cent piece in a very unlikely place. Wish it could talk and tell me how it got there. But I won't look a gift horse in the mouth and just thank the detecting gods for my weird but good fortune.

I was going to suggest that next if roll back didn’t help. Not an uncommon problem. Good job figuring that out.

Steve changed it based on the Codan Annual Report timeline.

"HEY, HON, THE COIL ON YOUR GO FIND IS COMING IN LOUD AND CLEAR. NOW HOW ABOUT GIVING ME SOME SPACE TO DETECT..."

FT probably doesn't care as they don't design nor manufacture the battery and are moving away from NiMH in the next Impulse iteration anyway. I would advise against opening it up because that just makes contained disposal that much more difficult and the gas and chemicals that are contributing to the condition are some nasty stuff.

Nokta comes close to providing such access and tapping into the pulse of their user base. The designer of the Tarsacci MDT 8000 is also similarly approachable. It's also not often that users are willing to pay for the privilege of essentially beta testing a detector. So it is kind of expected the designers would take such a vested interest in the feedback, good or bad. Looks like it has been a pretty successful experiment in product development that should spur other manufacturers to sit up and take notice.

Yep, that is why the limited tone options on the Orx coin modes is extremely limiting. If I do use Orx for detecting, it is usually in Gold mode where the vco-like audio is much more expressive. Similar to pitch in the disc modes. Tone is king on Deus especially when all you are getting is double bars on the TID display. But I also don't discount the displayed information as it is just an adfitional input for making a dig decision. Yeah, I can get away with just the WS4 phones and a coil on Deus, but that is not my preferred configuration.

The chest itself weighed 20 lbs from what I have read, I revised my post.