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This past weekend i was running the GPX 4800, and my buddy was using my equinox 800. I will say that i could not be within 30 to 40 feet of the equinox, it gave the GPX fits, and if you got closer than 10 feet the GPX was just screaming like it had a beer can under the coil. I found this interesting since its usually the other way around with the GPX giving the VLF detectors fits. Guess it has something to do with the Multi IQ that the equinox is running. Has anyone else experienced this?

Except as part of a repair situation. Right now that means under warranty repair. Later it may mean as part of a paid service repair down the road. But you can't just buy a pod/handle as a regular purchase. That has been confirmed by multiple sources on this thread.

Rather than wait for the official waterproof Headphone Adaptor Cable 3.5mm (1/8-inch) to 6.35mm (1/4-inch) lead i made my own with a 1/8" Male To 1/4" Female Headphone Lead and the WM08 blanking screw that comes with the unit i just drilled the blanking screw out and glued the 3.5 (1/8) end in then used a silicone washer for a watertight seal easy.

This post is mainly directed to UK field detecting where we have had social open air gatherings since Medieval times and on fields littered with coke. I used these settings yesterday and I was hopeful of finding at least one gold necklace / chain but alas none, better luck next time. As most of us know it is almost impossible to find a fine gold chain with any metal detector and as it is a long story why but mainly due to Eddy Currents and the metal detector rejecting coke which fits into the same frequency range as thin and fine gold and as here in the UK we find our permission fields littered with coke which mostly emanates from the days of steam engines powering farm equipment and the spreading of night soil as a crop fertilizer and which was collected from house middens and where the ashes from the household coal fires was used to cover the stinking human excrement, these ashes contained large cinders which survive for donkeys years in the soil and give off wonderful signals for metal detectors. This information on how to adjust the Tone Breaks to enhance the chances of finding gold chains during field detecting is only applicable to the Minelab Equinox 800 as it has the advanced settings capability. To alter the "Tone Breaks" it involves making changes to three "Target Tone Dependencies" which are "Number Of Target Tones", "Target Pitch" & "Target Volume". Here is my effort to change the settings to cover the frequency conductive range to give off a signal from thin gold chains in the discrimination zones, at present the default Discrimination zone is -9 to +2 and it is the Zero to +2 segment where gold chains show. So first of all select either "Field 1 or 2" your choice. Then go to "Target Tone" choose 5 tones. Then go to "Tone Breaks" and set the 5 tones as thus T1 = -9 to 0, T2 = 1 to 2, T3 = 3 to 28, T4 = 29 to 38, T5 = 39 to 40. Then go back to "Tone Volume" and set tone segments to T1 = 1, T2 = 15, T3 = 25, T4 = 25, T5 = 15. Then go to "Tone Pitch" and set the tone segments to T1 = 1, T2 = 15, T3 = 25, T4 = 20, T5 = 16. To move from from one tone segment to the next segment use the "Accept / Reject" button ( \//x ). These settings are working for me but then again they may not be every-bodies cup of tea.

I have taken my Equinox 800 out several times and no matter what the tones and the VID shows all I come up with is junk. A few times I have found some pennies but mostly trash. Today I started searching an old church (1852) when I came across a tone that didn't sound like anything that I had heard before. This item was showing a solid 2 in all directions, but it said it was deep. I started digging and then about 22 inches deep I found what appeared to be a piece of glass, but it had a rusted ring around it and a disk that shows gold on it. I have no idea how much gold it is or if it is just gold leaf. Where the gold is at it is not magnetic at all. That was the only thing that I was able to find good enough to bring home except an odd looking spike. The spike is only about 6 inches long, 1/2 inch thick, with a head of about 1 inch. Have no idea what it was used for, but I thought it was cool looking. This church that I was at gave me so many tones in every part of the ground ranging form 1 to 28, and I just didn't have time to dig more than 5 holes before I had to go. So if someone would be able to help learn this new toy I would be grateful for all the help. I just want to know what I am doing wrong or is there a problem with my unit.

With the kids away at school once again, I had the itch to go out. I went to the ball diamond where I have found a silver ring and a class ring. My Garrett carrot was sounding off when I turned it in, so I decided to go back home and get my backup. (Turns out the battery was toast even though I just changed it the last time I was out.) I had sensitivity turned down to about 15 and was running in Park 1 using 50 tones. Recovery speed was at 7 and the horseshoe was engaged. After 5 digs, I got a very consistent 15. It sounded different from the countless other 15's I have dug that were pulltabs. Perhaps fuller in sound would be a way to explain it. Anyway, about 2 inches down was my ticket for the excuse train to be done sweating for the night. I left 10 minutes after starting knowing that this was going to be hard to top before dark. The side stones are diamonds according to my tester. The middle stones have a more purple hue to them when light is passed through. Any ideas on the stones would be appreciated. It looks like it would be very heavy ring, but the portion that holds the stones is hollowed out quite well. I invited my brother-in-law, but he was busy. I made sure to send a few picks so he will want to go out next time.

Is there anyone that for any reason still prefers the older version 1.5.0 software over the newer 1.7.5? If so, why? Just curious. Equinox - How To Check Version Or Rollback To Older Version Thread asking same question a year ago

Recently I have purchased the equinox 600 which I am very happy with. I did lots of research on different machines around the $500 mark and with Reddit’s help I went for the NOX 600. Again happy I did. When I did some research on the differences between 600 and 800 the only biggest difference was the gold prospecting mode which didn’t seem like a huge desire for me, and some additional features like custom user profile on the 800 as well as different screen brightness adjustments plus a few other things that I didn’t feel like were a big deal compared to the cost. One thing I am upset about though that wasn’t really brought up or it was what I would say a subtle difference in reviews, is the recovery rate between both machines. The 600 has 1, 2, and 3 recovery speeds where as the 800 goes from 1-8. It seems like being able to go higher than a 3 recovery rate in my opinion might be worth going with the 800. I could be wrong but being able to go to a recovery of 4, 5, or 6 with the 800 takes the cake in trashier areas. It may be common sense or it may not be much of a big deal but after going through some dense areas with the 600, I find myself wishing I could run through the areas with a higher recovery than a 3. What are your thoughts on this, is 3 enough when the next machine just about $200 more can over double the recovery rate? My recent discovery of this is causing me to feel like I want the 800 over the 600 now. also in the manual I have noticed that when it talks about recovery rate it shows the 800 on a scale of 1-8 and the 600 shows 1-3 however 1 is under 2, 2 is under 4, and 3 is under 6 of the 800 scale. Does that by chance mean a 3 on the 600 is as powerful as the 6 on the 800?

I've been metal detecting with my Minelab Equinox 800 all summer sine getting it in April 2018, but just finding the usual coins and nothing exciting to post. The last several days outside Reno I made it out to a new site and found a cache of 75 square(actually rectangle) cut nails and some other interesting items. One item appears to be the end of an old spoon. Using Field 1 pretty much factory settings, but when in town and hunting parks I lower recovery speed down to 3 and slow speed rate speed way down . ( I find gets better depth) . Also, switch target zones to 5 to get more different sounds on the various targets. For the first 1 and 1/2 years of using the Equinox I used Park 1 all the time, but after getting more experienced with it, help from this forum, and reading a couple of books on the NOX( Clive James Clynick and Andy Sabisch books) I feel comfortable enough using some other modes and changing the factory settings. After using a Whites XLT for 15 years it definitely was a learning curve with he NOX , but well worth the learning process. Now, up to 1061 coins and $71.16 for 2019 including the water/sand finds with another detector. (including 9 wheat cents). The forum does great job of speeding up the learning process. Great day in the field.

Today I had a chance to get up at dawn and get in a quick hunt before other events of the day. I decided to go to a familiar beach since I had read the surf report and it said there could have been a 3 hour period of 3.5 ft waves at high tide from the WNW! Ok, that is not much energy but better than the 1 ft surf at 16 second intervals all week. Off I went before the mid tides would take my beach. It was a great morning with just a bit of coolness and a partial marine layer but it didn't block the sunrise. Off in the distance you could see the planes going in and out of LAX. My plan was for a quick walk to my location before someone else would get there and then work my way back. As it turns out there were no other detectorists on the beach this morning due to the lack of major energy in the surf. Even the surfers only had small shore break to try and catch. This was the same area where I found my fantastic David Yurman piece a couple of weeks ago. When I walked fast I didn't locate much. I was following the black sand line and would stop on a target and circle and see if there was more but I kept up my plan for about 1.5 miles to my beach. Once there I was walking up and down the slope. This presents the biggest challenge to the Equinox because at the bottom there is lots of black sand and water and at the top it has been 4-5 hours since wet. The ground changes more. I had just a few pennies with all metal and sensitivity at 23 and iron volume up to 10 and everything else stock in Beach 1. (The other day I did a factory reset for the first time in over a year.) I put the iron volume (0-minus 9)up to 10 because I have learned as Simon has also that fringe targets (very deep targets too) often times read negative and when they do that they get the iron tone and it is preset at about 4. I give it a louder response. When I made my turn I found some rocks that had been washed up by the waves and I got some strong hits. Those are the can pieces that were just at the edge of the water. They were not that deep, perhaps 10 inches but they are big so just normal trash. As I worked my way back in the direction I came I worked up a bit higher than when I came in and I got my first quarter. It was deep but there wasn't much around so this is when I decided to go to 25 on the sensitivity. I rarely do this but it sounded ok so I stuck with it for this section of beach. A pattern began to develop in the finds. There was a rather narrow 'streak' or line running parallel to the waves but 5-6 feet above the black sand line. My holes were in a narrowed zone. I was gridding now down this line and also crossing it. Targets would murmur and then you would have to interrogate them and see what number it would stick on or jump around. I got some of the wires this way. Then I got a deep signal that was negative 5-6 and I took off 6 inches and it turned positive. I went down and down and could now fit the entire coil in the hole but it was still there. I lost it a couple of times because I couldn't hear it without sticking the coil on edge into the bottom of the to hear it again. I had to put down the detector and dig with my hand/arm scoop to get deep enough but the sand was not packed. I was over half the length of the scoop into the hole when it came out. I measured and the 11 inch coil can be fit in the hole on top of itself with just a couple of inches above the sand line so I say it is a 20" deep target. It is some kind of 'pot' metal in the shape of a B. The weight is 14.4 grams. Soon after I found a couple of other quarters and then returned the sensitivity to my normal 23 and worked my way back out the beach. I learn something all the time. The last picture is a picture of my finds for last month. It includes the David Yurman piece.

Hi Equinox owners. I have had mine for several months but mostly used it for relics, now and then on gold in quiet ground, so mostly have not needed to even reall contemplate tracking. But now as the weather has really cooled off I have decided to try in more in various areas for gold. Now, when using Auto balance which I have up till now used it's all good. See the ground change raise n lower the coil, hear a variation, hit balance, see it change and go quiet. Ok. But I have tried Tracking and I see a ground colour, mineralisation, change, raise and lower the coil and there is ground noise. So, the ground balance I started in was say 15 by the numbers, but now it's changed whilst in tracking and still showing 15. But when I hit balance and pump the coil whilst holding it, it may go up to 60! Now thats a big change and the noise as I raised and lowered the coil corresponds with that, or agrees there is a significant change. But even though the tracking icon was shown and tracking chosen it didn't move from the initial balance. So I stop, press the track/balance and up it shoots to where it should be. My machine to me is just an manual balance, Auto balance detector and has no Auto Tracking. I can balance say to 10, then manually change it to 70, or go into minus numbers, but when I put it into Track and raise and lower the coil, I can hear the pitch either rise or fall dramatically as I raise and lower it but nothing happens. Now and the a minor number change, but just by a few to several after repeated pumps, sometimes 20 to 30 pumps. Then it stops. Then I press and hold the button and it can change significantly by tens or more number values. How do you guys find yours performs in Tracking please?

Happened to me this weekend at least 6 times..all of the sudden it gets really chattery and loud like the worst EMI you have ever heard...the numbers on the screen are going all over the place...first time I was near some power lines so I thought maybe it was because of that...It would do it and then stop and then start doing it again. I looked around thinking someone who hated metal detectors was targeting me with some EMI device lol...Then it happened again at 3 other locations yesterday...I tried re noise cancelling several times but that did not work...tried lowering the sensitivity almost down to zero and it was still going mad. Turning the machine off and then on again did not fix the issue...so I did a factory reset and that fixed it...but then an hour later it started up again...anyone have or seen this before? It happened in several different programs. strick

In a previous post of mine, I made the case for using 3 tones based on Low, Medium and High conductive targets; a system I routinely use in hunting our Florida beaches. It's simple, effective and gives me the information I really need. The videos below however, make a strong case for 2 tones and the "Dig it All" approach when using the Equinox series detectors. Why? As you'll see in those videos, the tested targets span the VDI spectrum based on metallurgical composition, shape and size. Granted, these are nothing more than air tests which aren't affected by depth, moisture or ground mineralization but they at least provide some indication as to how a variety of targets range the VDI scale based on their individual characteristics. If using 2 tones, I would personally set the tone breaks at -9 to 0 using tone pitch 1 indicating probable junk and the second tone break at 1 thru 40 using tone pitch 25. If I were interested only in a more detailed target description, I would lean heavily toward the CTX 3030. However, in the type of beach hunting I do, I favor the Multi IQ, faster processor, enhanced sensitivity and weight of the EQX over the CTX...just my personal preference or as I always say, "Just the view from my foxhole." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsgspduZA_8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7345qtsc7s&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMHH5ynSwW0&feature=youtu.be

As users know, there are a lot of setting options for the Minelab Equinox 800 (ditto for the 600, although not as many). But how many affect the detector's performance and how many fall in the category of ergonomics? I'm going to divide the settings categories into three groups: those whose adjustment is standard fare, those whose adjustment procedure isn't obvious but can clearly affect the performance, and those which are more/less ergonomically oriented. This is just my simple classification. You can redo my calculations if you feel that one or more features belong in a different category, or if practically you can ignore a range of settings. So here goes: 1) 'Standard fare' adjustments: a) Noise Cancel, b) Ground Balance. 2) Performance affecting options: a) Detect modes, b) Operating frequencies, c) Sensitivity (Gain), d) Recovery Speed, e) Iron Bias. 3) Ergonomic settings: a) Overall Volume, b) Threshold Level, c) Threshold Pitch (audio frequency), d) # of Target Tones, e) TID breaks, f) Target region tone pitch (audio frequencies), g) Target region tone volumes. Let's start with category 2 above and include all possible settings. The first two combine because not every frequency option is available in every Detect Mode. By mode: i) --> iv) Park 1, Park 2, Field 1, Field 2: 6 + 6 + 6 + 6. v) --> vi) Beach 1, Beach 2: 1 + 1. vii) --> viii) Gold 1, Gold 2: 3 + 3. So total mode and frequency options is the sum of all these = 32. Next is gain, of which there are 25 possible settings. Then recovery speed = 8 settings. Finally Iron Bias = 10 settings. Thus we now can mulpultiply these: 32 modeXfrequency * 25 gains * 8 recoveries * 10 IB's = 64,000 possible setting combinations! Can we simplify? I think somewhat, yes. Although there are 25 gains settings, probably the lowest 10 can be left off for 99% of search locations. So replace 25 with 16 and were down to 41,000 (rounded). Now I feel better. 😁 Correction: Chase Goldman (response later in this thread) points out that Iron Bias setting only applies to Multi-frequency, not to the single frequency selections. The 64,000 number above (assuming 25 gain settings) is actually 20,800 and the ~41,000 (assuming 16 gain adjustments) decreases to ~13,300. There are a lot of ways to play around with this number. Some will say that gain is simply a 'standard fare' adjustment since you set it to the highest level that background noise will bear. But that is oversimplified in a trashy environment since targets (particularly ferrous vs. non-ferrous) are affected differently. The flipside is that ground balance sometimes isn't optimally set (at the neutral point) and forget. Native gold detectorists sometimes find better performance when adjusting a few ticks off neutral. Number of target tones (and also target pitch and volume) can play into performance in a practical sense since the human brain can take advantage of (or be adversely affected by) these. You can think of (and set) the Equinox 800 as a simple detector. Just choose your favorite mode and then go with the defaults. This isn't new, the same can be done with the White's V3i (although if that's your plan with the V3i then save a few buck and get the VX3). But to get optimal performance you need to adjust the detector to the conditions, particularly site. There's a lot of space to cover and it's not surprising that 1 1/2 years after its release people are still finding settings that beat (in certain environments) the canned (manual suggested or otherwise determined) settings.

This is a little premature perhaps since we are still waiting to see any accessory coils at all for the Equinox detectors. First up will be the 6" round DD followed by the 12" x 15" DD coil. What next? I think the Equinox has genuine potential as a gold nugget detector, but that the open spoke coil designs slated so far are not optimal for that purpose. Plus, some relic hunters etc. want something narrower than the stock 11" coil but do not want to give up the ground coverage as much as the 6" round coil does. Minelab has a couple molds for elliptical coils. There is the 5" x 10" DD coil for the X-Terra but that coil is not fully waterproof and too buoyant for water use even if it was. The better option in my opinion is the newer 6" x 10" coil made for the Gold Monster. The Minelab Gold Monster uses the exact same lower rod/yoke size as the Equinox, meaning the coil, coil bolt, and even the coil connector are already the proper size to fit perfectly to the Equinox. Here is my Gold Monster 6" x 10" DD coil mounted to my Equinox 800. As I said, a perfect fit. The Equinox version might weigh more due to more windings required for Multi-IQ but the coil as is weighs less than the 11" coil. My Equinox with this coil mounted weighs 2 lbs 13 oz or 2.81 lbs, slightly less than the 2.96 lbs with 11" coil. It does make for a little better balance. For nugget detecting in particular a solid bottom coil helps prevent snagging on rocks and stubble. I imagine the farm field hunters would love the coil for similar reasons. Anyway, I have no hints that this will happen but I am going to be referring to this thread over and over until it does. With a mold in hand half the work is done, and with the extreme popularity of Equinox no good excuse for this not happening. I personally think it is a requirement for Equinox to be all it can be as a prospecting detector and for many other uses also. Nope, not going to turn it on to see what happens!! Anyone who thinks this is a good idea and wants to aid in the lobbying effort has my express permission to use these photos in posts on other forums, etc. The direct link to the first photo is http://www.detectorprospector.com/forum/uploads/monthly_2018_04/minelab-equinox-with-6-x-10-dd-coil.thumb.jpg.07f2d166da68ca4c6e39bf21759c7c4f.jpg Click photos for larger versions....

I've been wondering for a while why bottle caps tend to have the scratchy sound. I can't seem to find an answer on google either. Is it because of the rivets in the sides of the cap or ferrous material inside the cap?

I went up and hunted near Silver City in Idaho. It was a long day of climbing really steep mountains prospecting (bust). At the end of the day I hunted an old mining town that burned down about the time the mine shut down and was never rebuilt. Really bad soil and big iron, glass and pottery shards all over the ground. Targets were everywhere but figuring out good targets was hard. Big iron was ringing up in the teens or negative (both the ones I dug and the many I scanned just to see that were laying on the surface) and I'm not sure why. Different types of metal? The last target I dug rang up a solid 30 and showed it was just under the surface. I scraped out a few inches, still there, still 30. Dug a few more inches, still there, still 30, pinpointer said it was just a little deeper. Got to a foot deep, same, pinpointer maxed out. Gave up at 2 feet, basically because I was exhausted, it was getting dark, and to dig any deeper I was gonna have to pry out some huge rocks to expand the hole. In the digging I dug out glass and pottery shards and barrel band pieces. When I gave up it was still reading 30 and saying it was a surface target (event though at this point the coil was 2 feet over the bottom of the trench) and the pinpointer was maxed still saying it was touching it, as it had since one foot down. I did manage to dig up some 1800's cartridge brass in the town site, so not a complete loss, but I barely scratched the surface really. So, what settings should I play with to try and get some better feel for the good targets, or is it just not possible in a situation like this? Like a said, bad soil, bad coil knock issues, whole town burned down, etc. And...what the heck could that bizarre target have been? If it was just the detector I would say weird phantom, but the pro-find 35 was also ringing solid nonferrous, even though it should have been way out of range.

Here is a easy way to fix your shaft wobble, even if only temporarily. The male end of the middle shaft just needs a single layer of electrical tape. The tolerances on the Minelab shaft are actually pretty tight. If it was any closer you might not be able to get it apart again. Anybody who has swung a Tesoro Knows those twist-locks only work for first assembly, lol I've done this before with other machines except I used aluminum tape, time will tell how long the electrical tape will hold out. The tape in the picture has about 15 hours on it, so far it's OK. Besides, it's easy to replace. Coincidentally when I took the machine apart for a cleaning and to take this picture, I noticed that Minelab made a similar raised surface on the lower fiberglass rod. The lower rod is so long that a little play really wouldn't translate into as much slop as the upper connection does.

In the town I live there was a civil war battle/skirmish...depends on who you talk to. It started approx 7 miles north of town that morning crossed over a creek, a branch and a river then thru town before ending up on the SE parts of town at dark. We still have two parks that both had fighting take place in them. We are able to hunt the parks but with that said they are littered with pop tabs, beaver tails,ect. and have been hunted like most parks to death. Hunting with an Etrac in the past you got a tell by the ferrous number while looking for lead. We need all the info we can get. What we have discovered with the Equinox is the numbers will jump around on lead...a lot. The pull tabs will lock on solid but the especially smaller roundballs will hit both ways and sound good but the numbers will not lock down. My son just got his Equinox 800 yesterday and we did a short hunt in one of the parks. I just got a good hit when he arrived and he was able to listen to it before we dig it and out came a nice round ball. I ended up with 3 more but smaller ones. He called me earlier this evening with his first relic find with the Equinox. Just as before he said numbers all over but good sound both ways and out came a nice round ball. I was wondering if you guys had any similar experience with yours. I've dug quite a few round balls so far and you can just about guarantee when you're going to dig lead. A tell is a tell to me no matter how it works. Whether the ferrous number is a little lower or the numbers jump.around, I like it. The Equinox definitely has a "tell" for lead. Here's some of the lead I've dug the last few hunts in one of the parks. Good luck and HH! Still pk1 recovery7 iron bias 3

I have recently been using my Equinox 800 for saltwater hunting. The obvious settings, Beach 2, Iron off. Since I am forced to a slower swing, I drop recovery speed to about 2-3 (4-5 on beach). I am forced to drop the sensitivity to 15 or below. I have noticed the waves will cause signals and dips in the sand too. This has become frustrating as I use a CTX-3030 and do not get nearly the false signals. Any suggestions to try?

I was one of the first to get an Equinox 800 in the states and I have been using it on the beaches ever since. I've found a lot of good targets while walking long distances with all 3 coils. Today I switched back to the 11 inch coil after using the 15 inch coil for the last two weeks. I use Beach 1 mostly in the damp sand but it is possible to use Field 1 and get some nice targets also. I have the sensitivity at 22 and speed at 6 or so and have stopped using tracking. Today I increased the volume on the iron targets (those below 0) and I'll work with 5 and 50 tones. When I started this morning I noticed someone on the beach before me and they were furiously swinging something. I think they had a PI but I'm not sure but he was in a hurry and was going in my direction. I didn't see him digging much and neither was I. I was swinging pretty fast also. It was time to go in the other direction on the beach. I did some combination of low tide wet sand and damp sand trying to find a patch but I was walking 'towards' a beach I like. That is when I found the large Guatemala coin which sounded like a penny. It was just bigger. I continued on for almost a mile getting very little but then I hit upon a couple of targets. This slowed me down. I've seen some videos where targets are missed when the coil is moving too fast. Today that was happening to me because I started digging quarters, dimes and nickels at 12-15 inches. The coil speed had to be just right and I could hear many more targets and there wasn't much trash. (I threw about 10 pieces away before I took the picture.) A quarter at 14-15 inches doesn't always sound like a quarter in the beginning. Nickels can be a 0 on my screen. It became a dig everything patch that I worked for over an hour. I was 'there' and didn't have to keep going on to another beach. Sometimes I keep walking fast in search of a better beach but when I slowed down I found the silver ring at about 12 inches, faint and repeatable with a slow swing but I would have missed it walking speed. This same 'pattern' of faint targets mixed in with the corroded pennies continued. I surprised myself with 'holes in my swing' and grid pattern. I was finding targets right under my feet as I tend to swing off to the right side. (Check your grid pattern for holes!) Anyway it was a nice patch. I was not in a hurry and I think I got most of it but we'll see tomorrow. Mitchel

Just received Nox #3. The first two were bad out of box. The first thing I noticed about both of them, when I noise cancel, I had to press detect button 2 twice to return to detect screen at times. This didn't happen all the time, but often. I noise cancel and press detect 1 time and hear beep, but screen remains in noise cancel until button is pressed again. If in NC and 1 press doesn't return to detect screen, I can NC and 1 press a few times and then the detect screen will return after a NC and 1 press. Pulled Nox #3 out of box, connected coil, turned it on, did NC, pressed detect button, screen froze, tried again, same thing 2 or 3 times. Turned off, turned on, same thing. Went to video the problem and it worked like it should 4 or 5 times, before a screen freeze. Does anybody have this issue? Do you have to press detect button 2 times to return to detect screen?

It started in July of 2018. Took my new Nox to Mexico and even though I did testing at home before leaving it was disappointing to find that my Black Widows would not work, nor my Sun Ray pro golds. I did do some detecting but the wave noise on my beach made it difficult to really get into the machine. Fast forward to January, armed with the correct connector to use my black widows I starting learning the Nox. First impression was, chatty, difficult to PP, and issues with moving water and black sand. After the third time out I installed the update. WHAT A FAIL! I had a new machine alright but it was working way worse. I consulted a few people with the machine and was told that the update may not always take. I uninstalled and checked performance [seemed ok] Then put the up-date back on. What a difference! The machine seemed to perform better! Off to the report card! Saltwater Beach, Beach 2, GB auto. Dry Sand- [N/A] The dry sand is not worth my time where I hunt. Wet sand grade: [A- ]: I found the machine to work the wet sand well [no water]. With light black sand I could work in 21-22 sensitivity. Very little false signals, worked recovery between 4-6, iron bias 2-3. Even though I did not make any great recoveries in this part of the beach by the end of the season I felt confident there was not much getting by me. Wave Trough [moving water] grade: [ F] This is where I really like to hunt. To put it bluntly the Nox is a complete failure in moving salt water. It is like the moving salt water makes the machine blind to detect and see targets. The beach is rough where I hunt. At any point water could be over waist deep, then 50’ or more of wet sand to the water. If I were to stay in the wave zone completely I would have to significantly de-tune the machine do to the moving water causing the machine to false. When the water would drain out and I would locate a target the next wave is right there. When the wave would come through, repeated sweeping where the target was produced no sound at all. When the wave pulled back, re-sweeping showed the target was present. This happened over and over for 100’s of targets. Another drawback: It was clear there was two different set-ups needed. One for wet sand, another for moving water. If I had the machine set for moving water that meant every time the wave swept out I was WAY under matched for wet sand only. Mainly I found I had to run around 17-18 sensitivity and 5-6 on recovery. Other issues comments. EMI grade[ F] I have over ½ mile of the beach where I need to back off the sensitivity by 1-2 regardless of other conditions or controls. Pinpoint Mode grade [F] The worst functioning I have ever used, Especially on a beach! All metal mode grade [A] Or as I nick named it the “truth mode” Almost every jumpy target I had would lock in somewhere, once put in all metal mode. Recovery of targets grade [D] Well part of this grade is due to the pin-point mode, but make no mistake there are other issues, Even though I had the target out of the hole, many time the detector was still sounding off. Also it seems to be easy to bury targets or make them undetectable after missing them in the scooping process. Thanks for listening. Please do not tell me how it works on land, in fresh water, or gold mode [I don’t hunt land] This is my honest review. Sure I have a few more things to learn, but I doubt my grades would change much. Over-all grade C+

In certain areas I'm getting definite hits reading 1 and some times 2 . At first I thought it has to be tiny split shot but now I'm not so sure. I now believe most of these are tiny hot rocks. Spit shot I can handle and ID by sight. I've dug plenty in my day and always managed to get them in the scoop. With these hits there is nothing except a scoop basket full of small gravels. In some areas I have resorted to notching out 1 or raising the iron segment to include it. Any thoughts?

Friends, I have been hunting with my new Nox 800 for the last 5 months now on a nearly daily basis. I found a bunch of very interesting stuff and coins. There is a VERY interesting field right where I live. I know the area has been populated for several hundreds of years and that field is very close to even old houses. A hot spot from my point of view. Unfortunately a high voltage overland electric lines cross right over the middle of the field. I get so much EMI that the field cannot be worked Grrrr.......... Does anybody have a good idea? I went through the available channels manually and auto but still too much EMI. Reducing the gain doesn't do the trick! Any more suggestions from your side?