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54 minutes ago, George1971 said:

Does anybody know the frequencies in multi-mode that score uses?

You won't get that info from Nokta.

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I wonder if the Accupoint will be able connect to the headphones at the same time the Legend is connected? Most Bluetooth headphones can only pair to one device at a time.

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On 9/16/2023 at 7:28 AM, V3i/MXT Pro said:

I wonder if the Accupoint will be able connect to the headphones at the same time the Legend is connected? Most Bluetooth headphones can only pair to one device at a time.

Imo, the bluetooth is still too slow and I use vibe only pinpoint setting. I'll add that the screen will need to be readable after being scratched up... 

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On 9/16/2023 at 9:28 AM, V3i/MXT Pro said:

I wonder if the Accupoint will be able connect to the headphones at the same time the Legend is connected? Most Bluetooth headphones can only pair to one device at a time.

The supplied headphones (with the Score series) will likely be APTX LL and multi-point, just as the ones provided today with Legend for compatibilty with Accupoint.  If not, inexpensive (less than $50 US) APTX LL multipoint headphones/neckband earbuds are readily available.  Example below.

Sound Blaster JAM V2
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On 9/14/2023 at 2:19 PM, George1971 said:

Does anybody know the frequencies in multi-mode that score uses?

 

On 9/14/2023 at 3:14 PM, Nuke em said:

You won't get that info from Nokta.

It’s also not very relevant information without the context of how the waveform is generated, and the real secret sauce; i.e., how the target signal is processed, including frequency weighting factors. None of the major manufacturers who design today’s generation of SMF detectors (Minelab, XP, Garrett, Nokta, Quest, etc.) divulge much of this information publicly so you have to take them at face value and infer the optimal usage of the various SMF modes based on their high level general user guide descriptions of frequency weighting and tidbits like covered frequency range (Minelab, Nokta, Quest) or maximum SMF frequency utilized (XP).  The other problem with focusing on the specific SMF frequencies (if they are even provided) is that marketing often results in misleading/confusing claims like when ML confused buyers by conflating Multi-IQ information with the detector’s multiple selectable single frequency settings in marketing graphics or when noise cancelling channel designations made people erroneously think that ML’s FBS2 detectors used 27 different frequencies and perpetuated the erroneous concept that more frequencies are better in SMF.  They had to subsequently refute this concept in a subsequent Treasure Talk article on Multi-IQ to keep people from thinking that Multi-IQ was a step back from FBS2, when it was simply just a completely different approach than FBS2.

The fact that Whites and Fisher (CZ) used two or three simultaneous frequencies back in the day was more relevant then when the target signal processing component was less sophisticated and, in the case of Whites, when you could individually select the target frequency of interest and manually integrate the result.

IMO, users should just assume the FMF profiles are consistent with detecting the intended target objectives based on the mode setting descriptions - e.g., high weighted frequency profiles for gold and micro jewelry, low weighted frequency profiles for high conductors, and something in between for relics (wide range of conductivities) and beach detecting (salt stability) rather than getting wrapped up in the minutiae of what and how many frequencies are being transmitted and other arcane FMF details, and instead pay attention to real-world results from people they trust or their own hands-on experiences.

As far as these new Nokta offerings are concerned (provided the pricing is reasonable), they really hit the mark in terms of ease of use, versatility, and value in the niche between the ML Xterra Pro and the Equinox 600/700 and logically bridges the gap in Nokta’s lineup between Simplex and Legend.  They are what I thought the Vanquish should have been (or what ML should have tweaked XTerra Pro to be to logically replace Vanquish).  Looks like Nokta is not backing off from taking on ML directly despite ML’s pending litigation.

Good to see as this is only good news for the metal detecting hobbiest…competition and choice at the value end of the detector spectrum 

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Nokta has sure changed the detecting landscape for the better in a very short time quite dramatically.  

Some of the earlier leading brands are now largely forgotten by most or collapsed and Nokta has come out swinging and up there with the best.  I remember when the Nox hit the shelves many of us including myself though it was the pinnacle, it can't be beaten and they have reached peak VLF.  Now we can pick between 3 brands including Nokta have have either equalled or beaten it in many ways, not just build quality either.... performance which is "everything".

I wonder if the Score models will be available in the US, they may just take the easier route and avoid the US market for some models.

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Anyone here manage to place an order for the new Beta Accupoint?..

Im going to have to wait, I certainly Tried but kept getting knocked off the site.

 

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