Gerry in Idaho

Amazing piece of gold and his loss for words is priceless. The guy has been doing pretty well with the Axiom. Certainly in a great location.

Very nice size solid chunky gold. When you get a chance go back over the area with a bigger coil on the GPX-6000 and listen for weaker signals. You're certainly doing quite well. Keep it up.

Well Glenn I'm starting to get up in age/aches/pains myself and the back/feet are mostly worn out. I'll keep training as long as my Field Staff will put up with me and we are having fun. Onces the fun runs out, it becomes really tough to want to continue. Sorry you didn't make the hill to collect a few more beauties, but glad you were able to swing a few old sites for Coins/Relics. Thats another passion of mine, trying to find the tools/trash/trades left behind from the old-timers. Enjoy your winter and lets hope for a nice early warmer Spring/Summer. Keep in touch my friend. Those wire pieces are just amazing.

Well it wasn't her husband who taught her such bad habits. Although, I don't get to see all his finds so maybe he has scored a nice chunky one. Making memories and having fun is half of why we do it. Pics to last a lifetime for the grandkids to share on their social media.

You and I both. I actually sold my 1st Manticore because of the peach fuzz thickness of a cover. If they don't come soon, my coil itself will go bad. Then they'll have to send me a new coil. Oh well..they've got deep pockets.

One of my most successful customers is a lady and actually gets on here on occasion. She can usually find more than most of the guys and she certainly doesn't mind a little dirt under her nails. I actually think is very cool to see a lady swinger who has mastered this hobby.

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Very informative video on finding small and really dink gold with the Manticore. I noticed your machine does the same chatter each time you put it on the ground. It's not the ground per say but the loose coil cord which Manticore easily detects. Try cleaning up some of the excess cable near the coil and it will help. Yes I realize it's good to have some flex as we are always adjusting angle when in use. Mentioning the other detectors in the comments but never did say how you would rank them for small gold hunting? If you don't want to, that totally fine as I know sometimes testing unreleased coils and or detectors, pointers, there's certain things you can't do or say. You're quite becoming very good at the natural gold my friend and I appreciate you sharing your thoughts on the update and coil. Keep it up. My Staff/I will be around Rye Patch the 1st week of Nov. getting ready for students eager to learn.. if you're in the area swing by. Again as expected from you, well done.

I have a couple cancelations for this upcoming class, so if you want to get up to speed with your gold capable detector, call me at 208-345-8898. My Field Staff Experts and I are eager to get some more 1 on 1 with you. With us offering 3 days and the knowledge really sinks in. Pics are of my customers at Rye Patch. Mike came to take the class on a new gold detector and Sally was a tag along using her GPZ-7000. She was above camp while the group was training and she pops this solid slug. Guess the ride home for Mike was an ear full. No worries, I'd be proud of my wife if she could do the same.

Strick, Thanks for keeping me on my toes and I did do a correction "many Tailing piles". As for tailings/hand workings, I know you have some there in CA. After you and your lady took our class, did you ever go back to any of those with the VLF's? Yes I realize you could go hours and on occasionally days without a speck of gold, but at the same time, I've seen world class specimens come from a few of such style workings in the "Golden State". On a side note, I could have said "moss tailing piles". I've actually recovered gold in such piles and I even own a couple moss covered gold pieces (sun bakers). I have found a few in NV and Oregon. Below is a pic of one piece still showing moss type material on the top side. If you view the throw out piles of rocks in the background, you'll see they all have the moss type growth on the tops. This particular treasure with ounces of gold in it, will not detect on an older SD/GP machines. It was literally laying on top of the pile and the improved Sensitivity of the Garrett Axiom help me make the find. Interestingly, a quality VLF sees this particular find at about the same distance.

Thanks for agreeing with me and showing proof Glenn. It takes a lot of time in the field with many detectors to learn these things and most folks will not do that. Yes I agree with you, the Axiom does not see/hear some invisible gold, but at the same time it also will find more of the invisible types than many of the older PI's. As for a PI being able to do as well as a VLF for such gold? I really don't see how they can do it as the technologies used are so different. Maybe if a manufacture were to build a VLF within a PI so you can switch back and forth. Wonder how much that detector would cost us? Well f it was Minelab selling it, I recon $10K. If it's someone else, say like Garrett, I would expect them to be more reasonable. $5000. Love seeing your finds my friend and sorry I never made it up there this year, maybe 2024? Yes it's a hard pill to swallow when someone with a sub $1000 detector can find a $1000+ piece of gold and a $5000 or $8500 machine can't even make a peep on it. I've pissed off a few folks in the 3 days training sessions we offer, by showing such. They just assume the more money you spend the more gold you find. We Staff and I provide Knowledge and some of it is stuff many dealers don't even know about or have seen. What you do with the knowledge (being pissed or happy you learned that about your detector) is up to you. My training shows and explains what kind of gold your detector is best at and I also want you to know the kinds of gold and hunts it's not so good at. That way you are not wasting time in the field with a detector that is not good for the task. Why so many folks don't research out a good reputable dealer who's actually in the field showing success, to help them make a detector purchase, instead just order on Amazon and then wonder why they have not found any gold....is beyond me. You're one of the wise ones my friend.

MXT 300 helped me find quite a bit of nice size gold back in the day. When compared to an EQ-800/EQ-900, I'll take the newer technology detector. Multi IQ, 100% waterproof, lighter weight and better at certain specimens/invisible gold...vs MXT. But boy, was the MXT back in the day, a true gold grabber for those of us who learned how to use it. Actually quite an easy detector and much so more than a GMT along with better depth on bigger gold than GMT. Not true on small picker nuggets, the GMT shines through and also on invisible gold vs MXT.

Thanks for asking a very important question. As you view some of the pics, you'll see my coil size and selection varies based on the detector used. When running the older GP and GPX series with some Iron Identification, one must have a DD coil and the detector set up accordingly. I really like the 10" Ellip DD in some of the rough terrain areas and also the lighter coil on those bigger heavy machines is more manageable. When running VLF detectors in such sites I'm swinging the stock size coils as I'm not really interested in tiny bits and pickers. Back in the day on a Fisher GB-2, Tesoro LST, White's Gold Master series, I used stock 10" Ellip and larger 14" Ellip. With MXT series the 950 coils and or even 12" round. When newer Fisher GB came out and after some testing, I liked the 11" Semi Ellip. spoked coil. Then came the X-Terra series by Minelab and my testing provided me best results with the stock 9" round Concentric coil in the 18 kHz and if really rough terrain the 10" Ellip DD in same 18kHz. After that was the Equinox series and boy did the EQ-800 with stock 11" round coil and extreme light weight really get it done. I even used the larger 12x15 in a couple areas that had produced a few bigger pieces and managed to squeeze out one more sandwich of gold. Below for my big mouth fans... Below pic was found with NOX-800 and 12x15" coil. The Manticore and coil size. No option yet, just a bunch of BS teasing us. Yes, I have used Manti with success and the 11" round DD is fine and will be more preferred coil. Eventually, I'll step up a size for a select few areas...but at the rate things are going, it will probably be next year before I get to swing one as winter is setting in around my closer sites in ID, NV and Eastern OR. As for the GPZ-7000, I used the stock 14x13" coil but only in a few select sites as there is no Iron ID. Same with the newer GPX-6000, the stock 11" round is just fine. With the newest of the big boy detectors, the Pulse Induction Garrett Axiom and it's variable capabilities and coil options is ideal for a variety of such style of detecting tailings/diggings. It has Iron ID capabilities the 6000 and 7000 do not. Plus, the Axiom's advanced PI technology does better on many kinds of specimens and invisible gold many other PI's miss. My own style of detecting and the size of gold I'm chasing with the Axiom at such sites, I've been swinging the 12x13" MONO coil. One piece of advice for those who prefer to use a big deep detector, be sure to have a good VLF with target identification capabilities nearby. Doing so will save you so much time and energy. Realize what is different about me than most. I don't really like chasing small gold, unless that's the only gold remaining in the area. When you have dug up a couple trophies, it's tough to step back to small again. Yes, I know there's more small gold than big and that's exactly why when my Field Staff and I do training, we teach most to use smaller coils as they provide better results for the majority of what's left. Always varying scenarios and choices out there and not 1 way, 1 machine or 1 coil is best for everything. Options in different detectors and coil selections allows me to find more heavy metal.

I was called by a successful client old pupil of mine and he was telling me to start a new thread as I had posted this to a recent post. Only reason I even wrote the reply was one of the forum members had asked the questions. I realize there are many states, counties, areas and minerals in the USA and not all tailing piles are the same. But in all honestly, I've probably hiked of while swinging more than most of you and in many different areas. Heck I even wrote an article many years back in a magazine (when they existed) about how I hunt such piles. Not sure where it is, but many new machines I've tried since then and I still come up with the same conclusion. So here goes and I hope others will chime in with their experiences. Heck, I even know of a few of you who have found your biggest gold with a certain detector, even though you had a bigger one...and yes you also took our 3 Days Field Training. Hopefully some of you newer folks will learn from this and who knows, maybe an old salty member may as well. The majority of my bigger gold finds have come from tailing piles. I've detected dredge and hand placer digging piles in Alaska, Idaho, Oregon, Montana and Nevada with success. If I were to hunt California, Arizona and Wyoming tailing piles, I'd do what I've learned in the 30 years of chasing bigger gold and do what I usually do, I'd run Discriminating VLF's and find even more. Yes I have used PI's and even ZED with Success at such locations, but I run out of energy much sooner, as shovel heads at 3 1/2 feet are Ball Breakers, grease buckets over 4' are heart attaches. Here's the funny thing about the bigger machines. I've yet to actually find a bigger chunk of gold beyond the depths of my VLF's capabilities. I'm sure it has been done by someone, but my Success speaks for itself. I run into folks in the field on occasion and they swear up and down, those said sites can be PI'd. OK, then why is my VLF Success 10X of theirs???? Sometimes a little Success with a PI in tailing does not mean that's the best way to do it. Problem is, some folks are happy with a little bit of Success and too hard headed to learn and or teach themselves a new style. OK with me, as I'll keep doing what works for me and they can keep doing what works for them. Not all tailing piles are the same and many are not even in good size gold nugget/specimen country. Many folks forget this fact. In many of the tailing I detect, the highly mineralized soils have already been removed, so the VLF's capabilities are optimal which = a closer performance comparison of said VLF vs PI. Again, different parts of the country in the US, the piles vary. It's just that in the regions and states I've detected tailing piles, I've been able to get best results with the Discriminating VLFs. - A lighter and faster VLF detector can be used for longer periods of time - The Iron ID VLF's save time in identifying ferrous and non ferrous targets. - Today's newer discriminating VLF's with target Identification can be taken a step above and helps me separate the nonferrous targets and saves me more time not having to dig certain non ferrous targets. - In many tailing piles, the mineralized dirt has been removed and performance of VLF vs PI is not as big a difference. - Very important and not mentioned by most. Invisible gold - It's out there in way more places than most realize, but you don't know as your detector can't see it. Many older PI detectors and even a couple current models can not see or will respond to such gold. I have numerous multi ounces pieces a VLF responds to and bigger detectors can't or do it but not as well at a depth as the VLF. I love detecting tailing & hand work placer piles. I highly recommend to those who have not done so to try it and be open minded when doing so. There is no right or wrong way, but do what seems to work for you. If you have a bigger PI or ZED and don't own a VLF, I know you're missing gold and in some areas, you could be missing the best gold. No sales pitch, just what I have learned from being in the field for many years. Heck I couldn't believe my own eyes when I 1st witnessed this 25+ yrs ago. Now I take a big machine and VLF everywhere I go Here's some pics of finds with a variety of detectors that I have been successful with and all were from old workings.

Sorry to hear there are such stupid idiots in Australia as we have here in the USA.

The majority of my bigger gold finds have come from tailing piles. I've detected dredge and hand placer digging piles in Alaska, Idaho, Oregon, Montana and Nevada with success. If I were to hunt California, Arizona and Wyoming tailing piles, I'd do what I've learned in the 30 years of chasing bigger gold and do what I usually do, I'd run Discriminating VLF's and find even more. Yes I have used PI's and even ZED with Success at such locations, but I run out of energy much sooner, as shovel heads at 3 1/2 feet are Ball Breakers, grease buckets over 4' are heart attaches. Here's the funny thing about the bigger machines. I've yet to actually find a bigger chunk of gold beyond the depths of my VLF's capabilities. I'm sure it has been done by someone, but my Success speaks for itself. I run into folks in the field on occasion and they swear up and down, those said sites can be PI'd. OK, then why is my VLF Success 10X of theirs???? Sometimes a little Success with a PI in tailing does not mean that's the best way to do it. Problem is, some folks are happy with a little bit of Success and too hard headed to learn and or teach themselves a new style. OK with me, as I'll keep doing what works for me and they can keep doing what works for them. Not all tailing piles are the same and many are not even in good size gold nugget/specimen country. Many folks forget this fact. In many of the tailing I detect, the highly mineralized soils have already been removed, so the VLF's capabilities are optimal which = a closer performance comparison of said VLF vs PI. Again, different parts of the country in the US, the piles vary. It's just that in the regions and states I've detected tailing piles, I've been able to get best results with the Discriminating VLFs. - A lighter and faster VLF detector can be used for longer periods of time - The Iron ID VLF's save time in identifying ferrous and non ferrous targets. - Today's newer discriminating VLF's with target Identification can be taken a step above and helps me separate the nonferrous targets and saves me more time not having to dig certain non ferrous targets. - In mold tailing piles, the mineralized dirt has been removed and performance of VLF vs PI is not as big a difference. - Very important and not mentioned by most. Invisible gold - It's out there in way more places than most realize, but you don't know as your detector can't see it. Many older PI detectors and even a couple current models can not see or will respond to such gold. I have numerous multi ounces pieces a VLF responds to and bigger detectors can't or do it but not as well at a depth as the VLF. I love detecting tailing & hand work placer piles. I highly recommend to those who have not done so to try it and be open minded when doing so. There is no right or wrong way, but do what seems to work for you. If you have a bigger PI or ZED and don't own a VLF, I know you're missing gold and in some areas, you could be missing the best gold. No sales pitch, just what I have learned from being in the field for many years. Heck I couldn't believe my own eyes when I 1st witnessed this 25+ yrs ago. Now I take a big machine and VLF everywhere I go Here's some pics of finds with a variety of detectors that I have been successful with.

Thanks for all the great comments guys. You and at least another 1/2 dozen successful DP members have joined my Staff/I in the field and learned the ropes. It amazes me how some of you have taken my class so long ago and still sending referrals my way. Thanks millions. PS. Bill from NV (yes one of my customers who's taken the class) just showed me this pic with over 2 1/2+ oz of recent NNV gold finds he made on his last trip with his GPX-6000.

Beautiful history saves.

Beautiful History save Glenn and so glad your efforts came through. Part of when I enjoy about metal detecting, is doing research to find a site. Then spending the time to actually locate the site you want to hunt. Eventually you get to swing the site and each of us have a particular item we are wishing to discover. In your case, a token with the town name. What a feeling of euphoria it is when all comes together, and that little piece of history is sitting in the palm of your hand. Well earned.

Most certainly a great site with history saves like those. I found the exact same year and denomination 1852 $2.50 as my 1st gold coin find ever. I know you are over 10 gold coin finds, so you certainly have the research capabilities and sites for such. Great on you and I Iook forward to seeing/hear of more finds and updates. Again, Hats off to you for your probably best coin find of 2023.

Great on you Reese for finding your best Nugget of 2023 (so far). Love the raw footage and actual tools that were around to make it happen. So many folks don't understand what all it takes to have the perfect ideal video, the best lighting, location, proper tools needed and then for the dagum target to actually be gold. Usually, its on the fly and what's available around us to get the task done. Well earned my friend and glad your buddies were there to catch it live.

I ship them and detectors in the mail almost daily.

Many options out there now. If you want Simplicity of Turn ON and Go. Get a GM-1000. It lacks some of the fine tune features most all other higher kHZ VLF models have and it's literally is made for a No Brainer - anyone. If you are a White's fan, the improved GMT (Gold Master Tracker) is very similar to the actual running of the old V-Sat. If you prefer the most updated White's model, the now called Garrett 24K is the way to go. Now if you desire to also hunt coins/beaches for jewelry, go with Minelab Equinox 800/900 as it does it all quite well. Either way, sorry to hear of the loss. I'm surprised the Insurance company is even giving you any value for the 25+ yr old V-Sat. You can pick them up used for around $150 to $300. Glad to hear you are getting excited again and hoping to see some pics of success posted soon.

You getting me all hot and bothered again Rick. I don't know what's more exciting at my age, the girls with goldy locks or you and the golden eye. Well earned my friend. NNV is best in the later season before all the heavy rains. Keep it up.

Garrett has one of the best Warranties on pointers out there (3 full years). I just called and sent them one Friday. I actually wore clean through the tip of the orange plastic (my fault). Anyway, call them at 1-800-234-6151 and get it sent in for repair. be sure to write the RMA # on the outside of the shipping label.