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Is the soil mineralized or just mild ? thx

Hi Dug2gld , what is the difference between the Tarsacci and the Deus , is the Tarsacci better than the Deus in iron trash ? thx ...

Looking forward for your tests in the field . I found it excellent in high iron trashed areas , and very sensible to tiny targets . .. Yes it looks like a very nice coil ...

Chuck, if I understand well you are looking for a beach detector and not a ML, why not the Apex ? I have never tested it at the sea but my seller ( Bruno of Lutece Detection in Paris ) has seriously tested it a few weeks ago at the beach in Bretagne ( French West coast ) . He told me that it is a very good beach detector ... And this guy is very experienced ...

Hi Ridge Runner , If I had an advice it would be : do not live in the future but rather live in the present. If you look for a multifreq detector there are 3 excellent machines available right now : The ML Equinox , Vanquish and probably the Garrett Apex. I say probably for the Apex because I have not yet finished my tests and I need more hours with it , but from what I saw it is a very good machine especially in iron trash areas . Hope that helps a little ... 🙂 Alain

Yes it is for me what makes the difference for me beween the Apex and the ML mulifreqs ( Vanquish , Equinox , Etrac ... ). the Apex is almost silent in high iron trashed areas while the MLs are noisy and quite unstable there . On the other hand the MLs seem to be deeper than the Apex on big coins in low/medium iron trashed areas

Concerning the rod , I prefer the Vanquish or Deus telescopic rods . They are faster to assemblei in the field. They can be adjusted very precisely and they are lighter than the Apex rod, at least for the Deus. Just my opinion A quick summary of the Apex pros and cons from my standpoint : ----------------------------------------------------------------------- - The things that I like about the Apex : . excellent iron filtering on iron trashed areas . fast and reactive/accurate on targets . sensitive to tiny targets like small/very small coins as well as bigger ones ( multifrequency ) . the thin control box . simple to use . the excellent MS3 wireless headphones . the excellent Ripper coil - The things that I do not like about the Apex : . the rod . the weight/balance which is good but not as good as a Deus or Orx: ( Apex ripper 1140g , Apex viper 1210g , Deus Orx 800g ) . no dedicated backlight button . the running freq mode ( 5,10,15,20, MF or MS) not displayed on the main detection screen ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So globally the results are largely positive up to now .... to be confirmed with more tests ... Ha yes my seller told me he has now a few Apex customers having the false signal issue. He thinks that Garrett had a pb with some of the first hundreds of Apex delivered to customers ... But he does not know exactly the technical reason . Apart from that the weather is warm over here , 22 celsius deg today ... 🙂

Good news, I have eventually received my Apex back from the European Garrett support ... 🙂 My seller ( Bruno at Lutece detection in Paris ) told me that the pb ( false signals etc see above ) came from a faulty coil . So I received my Apex with a brand new Viper coil , plus a 5X8 Ripper coil that Bruno asked me to test. I decided to restart the tests from the beginning with the static tests on my tests boxes / different targets at different depths. The results were good for both coils , but I decided to try first the Ripper in the field , because I have been very impressed by its light weight ( 330g instead of 400g for the Viper ) and I like light machines ... And also because in france we often detect in iron infested sites , the Viper is a little too big for that and for me the Ripper has the perfect size for searching small/very small coils in nail beds .. So I went to one of my favorite testing locations , a wood near a small town . The soil there is infested with iron trash dating from the medieval up to modern times. A very good place for testing machines in a very difficult iron trashed environment. I will give more details in a new thread , but to summarize the Apex + Ripper have done an excellent job 🙂 . First the Apex has an excellent iron filtering , it was almost silent on the nail bed , just beeping on the good targets , very impressive . The Apex is also very fast , it is much more reactive than a Vanquish or even an Equinox . The signals on targets are very sharp and accurate , perhaps a little too sharp btw , but it is just a matter of getting used to the audio I think . Also the wireless headphones MS3 Zlynk are excellent , no latency and very reliable. For info I used the MF mode during all this test No treasure found during this short outing, mainly 1st WW rubbish , but again I have been very impressed by the Apex with the ripper coil. Clearly at Garretts they have designed/tested the Apex to work on high iron trash environments., as stated in their Apex marketing brochure. And it looks like they have done a very good job ... Just a few things that I do not like , for example the shaft which is clearly outdated Now I need to confirm all this and detect more hours with the Apex to check that everything is ok , no more falsing etc , I will detail all this in the new dedicated thread ... A few pics below , the Apex with a Quest X5 , the Viper and the Ripper coils , the Apex + Ripper weight , and the wood ..

It is a common error for beginners to try a detector in a yard . But such areas near houses are the worst locations for learning MD because they contain a lot of trash : big and small irons , aluminium bits/foils etc ... The good thing to do is to find a "quiet" area , away from houses , buildings and powerlines . Open fields or woods/forests are good places where to start. As said above the Vanquish series are very reliable machines and I am quite sure that it will go much better for you and your 540 in a quieter area 🙂... HH ..

Yes perhaps electrical interference . Move to an other location and retry your 540 . If you have still the pb then it could be a faulty machine.

Yes the frequency is the only setting that I change on the field. I have a 9 HF white coil. - 14 khz for low iron trashed areas - 30khz for high iron trashed areas. - 50khz on ultra high iron trashed areas but I rarely use it because of a too important loss of depth 5 tones or fulltones HH...

I think that an "Impulse GR" , GR for Gold and Relic dedicated to inland hunting on both hot and mild soils , with good iron disc and without salt compensation/waterproof to reduce the costs , would probably be a success story because the market of inland gold prospectors and relic hunters is much bigger than the beach detecting one to my opinion. I would be the first to buy such a machine if it performs well , and if it is not too expensive of course , around 1500e ? .... Or even less ... 🙂

Yes but Lamborghini is a niche market ... I hope that they will soon propose a low cost model, say at around 100 000$ .... 😄

Sorry this ring definitive model is a little too expensive for me at 45000$... Unless CARTIER offers special discounts for detectorprospector forum members... 😄

It would be interesting to know the number of units per model sold by each brand/manufacturer. Then we would have a clear idea of the winners . Concerning ML , their last 2 VLF detectors , the Equinox and the Vanquish , are very good machines . They have done a very good job , so it is logical and normal that their business is going well ...

Hi , From my standpoint I find the Equinox a little too complex for a beginner. I would personally go for a simpler machine Then you need to define your detecting conditions : - do you detect in the water ? --> then you need a waterproof machine - do you detect on high mineralized soil ? --> then you need a ground balance setting - do you need a light machine or has it no importance for you ? etc .... And yes take your time before buying ... HH

Vanquish 340/440/540 for all size silver coins in woods , and Deus/Orx 9 HF for small / very small silver coins in fields with iron trash

Let us say 15 inches . To obtain the value for a target buried in the ground substract 30% , this gives 10,5 inches ( 26cm ) estimated in the ground . The Equinox 11coil depth is around 11 inches , so their perfos seem to be similar ...

It was in 1998 , I was 36 years old. Me and my cousin we joined a friend who was detecting in a wood close to my house. My cousin was digging and I was guiding them in the wood. At this moment I remember having thought " hey this stupid hobby is not for me ..." . However a few weeks later I decided to give a try and we went to Paris to buy a machine. It was a Tesoro Silver Sabre MM for me and a Tesoro Amigo for my cousin . Still in the hobby 23 years later ... 🙂

My todays short outing in a wood near a small town with the 540/V10 . A feudal coin at the first signal ! 🙂 VDI +6 . I have not yet identified it but it is probably a 12nd or 13rd century coin . I have already been there with other machines , and I missed that one ... I always use my Vanquish in woods because it is more accurate and a little deeper than the Deus ... I was also using my new Blackube rechargeable lithium batteries . Definitely a very good machine this Vanquish ... 🙂

I agree with the above posts , I very often use the ALL METAL mode on my 540 and if I had to choose between a 340 and a 440 I would go for the 440 just for this single feature ( dedicated button on the 440 ). If you add to this more features like more volume segments , disc segments levels etc , this with still a low price , the 440 is clearly an excellent choice .For example there are only 3 levels for the audio volume on the 340 I found it not accurate enough to adjust it at the right level. Concerning the audio tones and tones breaks , I only use ( hear ) them as an indication , but I more rely on the screen VDIs which are of course much more accurate than the 3 audio tones in terms of identification .

Hi , if you have a high iron or aluminium trash density then probably the smaller coils would give the best results because big coils tend to overlap several targets at the same time ( which is called iron masking in the case of iron trash ) . The Equinox with the 6coil is very good in iron trash , the Vanquish with the V18 or V10 too ... And it is much faster to center/pinpoint targets with small coils than with big ones .... HH

Yes a S shaft reduces the tilt of the detector under the wrist, so it is always better to use a S shaft rather than a straight shaft. Concerning the F75 ergonomy I have tested a T2 a few years ago , although it has excellent electronics it weights 1,57kg without coil cover compared to the 1.26lkg of the Equinox .Even if the T2 is well balanced you have still the inertia of the machine to sweep that it directly related to the weight. So the T2/F75 is not the best choice in terms of sweeping ergonomy to my opinion. The Vanquish with a V10 coil weights 1.2kg , it has a good ergonomy with the light V10 coil ( 360grams ). This ergo can even be improved using lithium batteries and carbon shafts . But the lighter machines at the moment are the wireless XPs Deus and Orx ( 0.75kg for the Orx 22 HF )

Just one more thing , in addition to the piece of foam I also replaced the nimh batteries with lithium so perhaps the lithium have solved the pb and not the foam . This because the lithiums are lighter than the nimh so less intertia , then less subject to moving in the housing in case of shock .... Let me know if either the foam or lithium solve your pb ... HH Alain

I had the same issue , power shortage after setting the detector down. I suppose that the little shock between the detector and the ground slightly moves the batteries in their housing creating a micro power shortage. So I have added a piece of foam between the batteries and the cover to block the batterries , see pic below. I did not have any more the pb since I use this trick...