Steve Herschbach Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 The reintroduction of the Minelab GPX 4500 with two coils for only $2699 has in my opinion shook up the price/performance question. Up to now I would have considered the GPX 5000 to be the default "safe choice" for anyone wanting to get into serious nugget detecting with a proven machine. However, there is not a lot of difference between a GPX 4500 and GPX 5000. It really boils down to the Fine Gold timing which the GPX 5000 has and the GPX 4500 lacks. That timing is very good at handling certain very hot ground and extreme hot rocks while still getting a majority of the gold. However, the timing is not perfect and it does miss nuggets or exhibit "holes" in its ability to find nuggets and therefore should only be used in ground that requires its special ability to ignore hot rocks. Too many people rely on it as an "everywhere, all the time" mode. Most ground in the United States does not require the Fine Gold timing. With the GPX 5000 at $5795 with 11" round DD and 11" round mono and the GPX 4500 currently at $2699 with 11" round DD and 15" x 12" mono coils I am hard pressed to say the GPX 5000 is worth $3000 more just to get the Fine Gold timing. Yes, there are other subtle differences but seriously that is what it sorts out as from a practical standpoint. That being said I have added the GPX 4500 to my equipment roster at Minelab GPX 4500 Gold Nugget Detector and updated my Nugget Detector Review to reflect my opinion that at this time the Minelab GPX 4500 represents the best value for somebody new to high power pulse induction nugget detecting and wanting to get in on it without mortgaging the farm. Now, this is based on MAP (Minimum Advertised Price) versus MAP price for each detector. Package deals can be had and may sway the equation somewhat back towards the GPX 5000 for overall value. But no matter what if buying new you are going to lay out a lot more money for a GPX 5000 than the GPX 4500 and it mostly comes down to how much you think that Fine Gold timing is worth to you. Minelab GPX 4500 Color Brochure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick K - First Member Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Relic hunters like the bunch who attend Digging in Virginia" will benefit from this since ultimate depth in hot VA soil is their major interest. I take it that when you say reintroduction, you mean that the 4500 will stay in the lineup and that this is not just the disposal of excess inventory. Good news for prospectors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Herschbach Posted August 8, 2015 Author Share Posted August 8, 2015 On 8/8/2015 at 7:50 PM, Rick Kempf said: Relic hunters like the bunch who attend Digging in Virginia" will benefit from this since ultimate depth in hot VA soil is their major interest. I take it that when you say reintroduction, you mean that the 4500 will stay in the lineup and that this is not just the disposal of excess inventory. Good news for prospectors. Unfortunately all I am saying is it is again being sold by dealers in the U.S. and elsewhere at this time. What the reasons are and how long it will last I have no idea. The official Minelab page at http://www.minelab.com/emea/products/gold-mining/detectors/gpx-4500 still says " Please note this product is not available in Australia or USA." Minelab really can use a PI detector at this price point. It is more than the TDI and ATX but not so much more as to make it unreasonable to those considering those detectors. As much as I like my ATX it is a given to me that a prospector would be better off scraping up the extra $500 to get a GPX 4500 with two coils. If this is a temporary clearing of stock then I will have to again change my pages to keep up with the times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumblefish Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 So would this make a 2-coil GPX 4500 + SDC 2300 a better investment than a GPZ 7000? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Herschbach Posted August 9, 2015 Author Share Posted August 9, 2015 For some people, yes. For others, no. It just depends on the individual circumstances. No doubt though a GPX 4500 and SDC 2300 for about half the price of a GPZ 7000 is a formidable combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rege-PA Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 It`s nice having two detectors, always a back up at hand if chit happens to one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Herschbach Posted August 13, 2015 Author Share Posted August 13, 2015 I got a PM reminding me that perhaps I was oversimplifying things in my original post. I mention the Fine Gold timing and "other subtle differences". Here is the PM (don't be afraid to post folks): "Just thought I would bring up that there are 3 timings that you get with the 5000 that are not on the 4500. Fine gold,salt gold and coin relic. I would also like to add that the ground balance is better on the the 5000 and it handles the EMI much better. The enhanced timing seems to work better on the 5000 also might be because of the detectors ability to ground balance better." These differences were actually covered in an older thread on the forum at http://www.detectorprospector.com/forum/topic/144-minelab-gpx-4800-vs-gpx-5000/ so that is worth a look also. A matter of perspective I suppose as to what differences are important or not to an individual. But no doubt my original post was thin on details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nugget65 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Steve Idk how u do it...for me to gain all u r knowledge I'd have to live 100 more yrs...I'm working real hard to get one of the GPX4500. ..the for all the helpful info.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auminesweeper Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I Ordered one the Price was good for our standards @ only £2500.00, But I decided Not to go with it because I need that Relic Mode, I loved my GP 3500 but it did punish me on more than one occasion, If I had access to Desert Gold then it would be A Done Deal, But not to worry, They Are still A Fantastic Machine, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Herschbach Posted August 14, 2015 Author Share Posted August 14, 2015 I have never found anyone yet who could make the Coin/Relic mode work. The soil needs to be nearly inert for it to function. If anyone has had success with it I would like to hear about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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