Steve Herschbach Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 No. What is going on is that Makro and Nokta are sister companies. The FORS models came first and all the coil shells were old fashioned vacuum formed, turn a shell upside down, lay in the wires, and pour in epoxy. Similar to the old Gold Bug 2 6" coil.These days most of the big manufacturers are switching to injection molded coils. The new Gold Bug 2 coils, for instance, are now injection molded. Vacuum formed coil shells are being phased out.There was not a problem with the original FORS coils with ear breakage. When the original Racer came out, it featured an injection molded coil. The first 10" X 5" was created for the Racer first and is injection molded and then also released for the FORS models. These are the coils that had the problems. In my opinion it was not just the ear thickness but a brittle plastic mix that caused issues with the early Racer injection molded coils. The response appears to be both a better grade of plastic plus thicker ears.The 15" coil being the older style vacuum formed shell coil never had the ear breakage issue. There is not a problem there to fix. Frankly, I like the old coils, like the little OOR 4.7" X 5.2", the 15", and the original 11" X 7" FORS coils. But the fact is they are being phased out and replaced with injection molded coils. As of now though the 15" coil is not injection molded. Link to comment https://www.detectorprospector.com/topic/1387-detailed-review-of-makro-gold-racer-by-steve-herschbach/page/9/#findComment-16809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvanwho Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 So, which to get, the Fors Gold + or the Macro Gold Racer? Has anybody done a features/performance comparison yet? Wonder if I should sell my MXT and GB2 now? Link to comment https://www.detectorprospector.com/topic/1387-detailed-review-of-makro-gold-racer-by-steve-herschbach/page/9/#findComment-16810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingo Qld Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I sure do like the 15" x 13.5" DD coil. Very well done for a large coil and relatively light. I just tossed on my postage scales and with skid plate/scuff cover it is 1 lb 10.8 oz Hi Steve, Why haven't they re-enforced the large (15"x13.5" DD coil ears) when they have already re-enforced the other smaller coil ears and eliminated any breakage on these coil ears, but not the large one which would be more under strain on the coil ears when bumped while detecting for gold on uneven ground ? I'm very happy the way they have re-enforced the smaller coil ears, but a big question mark why they haven't re-enforced the ears on the larger 15"x13.5" coil. Link to comment https://www.detectorprospector.com/topic/1387-detailed-review-of-makro-gold-racer-by-steve-herschbach/page/9/#findComment-16811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Herschbach Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 Well, go back up two posts to http://www.detectorprospector.com/forum/topic/1387-detailed-review-of-makro-gold-racer-by-steve-herschbach/?p=16809 and read my theory. Keep in mind I do not work for the company and do not represent them or sell their products. Are you aware of any issues with the large coil design that I am unaware of? Link to comment https://www.detectorprospector.com/topic/1387-detailed-review-of-makro-gold-racer-by-steve-herschbach/page/9/#findComment-16812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Herschbach Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 So, which to get, the Fors Gold + or the Macro Gold Racer? Has anybody done a features/performance comparison yet? Wonder if I should sell my MXT and GB2 now? Why would you do that Tom? They won't find gold for you any better than what you have. Link to comment https://www.detectorprospector.com/topic/1387-detailed-review-of-makro-gold-racer-by-steve-herschbach/page/9/#findComment-16813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingo Qld Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 On 12/12/2015 at 10:47 PM, Steve Herschbach said: Well, go back up two posts and read my theory. Keep in mind I do not work for the company and do not represent them or sell their products. Are you aware of any issues with the large coil design that I am unaware of? Hi Steve, I thought it strange that Makro has only re-enforced the smaller coil ears on the NEW "MAKRO GOLD RACER" but not on the larger coil 15"x13.5"DD which not everyone would have bought and used, I have seen that some owners of the first makro racer coin detector were on their forth coil replacement for coil ears being broken and I would only think that coil ear re-enforcement would be the best way to ensure coil ears do not break and customers not to rely on better plastics to fix the problem with coil ears breaking. From the photo of the 15"x13.5"DD coil for the "MAKRO GOLD RACER" coil you posted the ears still look thin to me, this is why I'm asking the question about the coil ear strength for this coil. I had coil ears break on my smaller 10"x 5.5 DD coil for my Nokta Fors Core coil as the ears were too thin. I have great respect for Nokta / Makro company and hope there is no further problems with ears breaking on their coils. Link to comment https://www.detectorprospector.com/topic/1387-detailed-review-of-makro-gold-racer-by-steve-herschbach/page/9/#findComment-16814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanursepaul Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I wonder if Rob sent mine last night ?????? I'm READY !!!!!!!!!! Link to comment https://www.detectorprospector.com/topic/1387-detailed-review-of-makro-gold-racer-by-steve-herschbach/page/9/#findComment-16815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Herschbach Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 I thought they were not shipping to to customers until January? All I can say about the coil issue is as far as I have ever heard anywhere on any forum it is only the injection molded coils that have had issues and the 15" is not one of those coils. I have not had problems with mine. That does not mean nobody else will not of course. I am not trying to convince anyone otherwise. My goal on any of these information threads is simply to pass on things I know about and I have exhausted my knowledge and educated guesses on that subject. Link to comment https://www.detectorprospector.com/topic/1387-detailed-review-of-makro-gold-racer-by-steve-herschbach/page/9/#findComment-16816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanursepaul Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Hahahaha... rumor control Steve.. But I have been waiting on this unit since back in the summer and I am ready for it..!!!!! (Sourdough Scott says I like to stir the pot ) 1 Link to comment https://www.detectorprospector.com/topic/1387-detailed-review-of-makro-gold-racer-by-steve-herschbach/page/9/#findComment-16818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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