Tony Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 I don’t have a 5000, 6000 or a 7000 so need no excuse to seriously consider the Axiom. I do love my 3500 though…..can’t see myself ever letting her go ❤️ At times, she can give me a slight shoulder and neck ache but her charm is irresistible ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Steve Herschbach Posted July 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2022 On 7/27/2022 at 10:47 PM, Gold Catcher said: The 6000 is indeed challenged by hot rocks, so perhaps here the Axiom has a distinct advantage? I will be looking out for the field reports in this regard. For areas where the 6000 is not workable I use the 7000, mostly then in general/difficult. For severe hot rock grounds I have not yet found any detector that works better than the GPZ when run with these settings, something that can't be done with the 6000. I would be very interested to compare performances running the GPZ in general/difficult with the Axion in those conditions, in particular for non-surface smaller gold. Perhaps a win here for Garrett? GC Northeast covers it well. Here is why I personally may let my 6000 go and keep the Axiom: Easily ground balance out hot rocks the 6000 (and 7000) cannot gb out with any settings they have. Easily balances to salt ground, even salt water, that 6000 (and 7000) cannot balance to. More stable than 6000 in EMI environments, or whatever it is that is going on with speaker or programming that causes 6000 instability. Carbon fiber rod that is one of the best ever seen on any metal detector. On arm comfort, especially with 11" mono coil, that is truly top notch. Great VCO audio, very expressive, great for people like me that hunt by ear and cherry pick targets based on tone and "roundness". Optional ATX style audio, while not for most people, will help some people that may have issues with VCO audio. Some people do not like VCO. Really great external speaker volume. The USB charging in my experience has been fabulous. Detector runs two solid days on a charge. With a single high capacity USB power brick I can run for over a week! While there is an emergency backup external battery, it would take real bad planning to ever need that battery. It can however act as a balance counterweight for larger coils when clipped under arm. An very positive action iron check function for shallow trash and some hot rocks (I recommend only in low to moderate iron mineralized ground). A threshold control. Four main timing modes for various ground, hot rock, and salt situations. Three ground tracking settings, plus you can Turn Tracking Off! Three speed/reactivity settings. Simultaneous wireless integration with optional wireless pinpointer. Six non-chipped coils to start with, monos in particular very light, very affordable, and more sure to follow very soon. No impediments thrown in way of third party coil designers. So I'm not saying an Axiom will detect gold better than a 7000 or possibly a 6000. What I am saying is it will Not Detect ground, hot rocks, salt water, and EMI that may be an issue in some places for those models, while still finding gold. This may open up some areas where those machine struggle due to the prevalence of non-gold signals. In this regard, it may make a good second PI for some 6000 or 7000 users. People can and will debate the Axiom as a nugget detector. I think the more interesting question for many will be how it stacks up versus the GPX 5000 as a relic and beach hunter? It’s actually no contest in this regard versus 6000 and 7000. But the 5000 is a very highly regarded relic and beach detector. The Axiom has obvious ergonomic advantages, and the feature set lends very well to non-nugget type PI hunting. 8 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Catcher Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Thanks for this excellent summary, Steve. Sounds really interesting. If I would not already been so heavily invested into ML machines I would for sure want to have one. It's just that in my particular situation spending another 4k now and then potentially another 10-12k in a year or two (or whenever) for the next GPZ would be too much. But on a side note, I really applaud Garrett for coming out with what appears to be an outstanding detector that has the potential to compete with ML. We need more competition in the high quality PI arena, this will benefit all of us ? GC 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenson Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Checks a lot of boxes for me. Going to keep the 6000 for gold but will probably let the 5000 go and get the Axiom for beach and relics. As a relic hunter I'm usually swinging a detector 10 to 12 hours a day at DIV for 6 days straight. The Axiom would be so much nicer to swing than the 5000 and rainproof to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strick Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Holy molly....reading all this makes me feel like selling all my detectors and starting over again lol. Strick 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swegin Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Anyone know what the Military discount is? 15%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GotAU? Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 On 7/28/2022 at 9:57 AM, Swegin said: Anyone know what the Military discount is? 15%? For US? I think it’s 15% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mn90403 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 I'm not reading everything on all the threads about this detector at this time so maybe these two questions have been answered. 1. How long does it take to charge? 2. Most of the marketing 'hype' for other detectors has included the idea that you can go back to where gold has been found before and find missed gold with this/that new detector. The new detector technology sees the porous gold better, goes deeper, sees smaller gold, etc. I don't see this aspect yet of the marketing. What I do see is that it handles problem grounds better and that gives you a better chance of finding gold that is still left. Is there a 'quality of signal or settings' that will make this detector see gold that other detectors missed? I think I like this as a beach PI although I don't like digging huge holes. Those digs hurt my shoulders more than carrying a 5000, 3030 or 7000 around all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geof_junk Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Hard to get under MAP price but a lot of the shop's other products can be sold to you for less than cost to make the deal. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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