Steve Herschbach

New Minelab Gold Monster 1000

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The note above - supersedes the Eureka Gold. That is news and an indication of the faith Minelab has in this detector.

and this:

From Codan 2016 Annual Report, page 9: "In response to customer demand, two new products are planned for release in FY17. A larger coil for the GPZ 7000® will give a significant depth increase over the standard coil. In addition to this, an entry-level gold detector will be released to the African market at the end of 2016. This product has been specifically designed for the African market to fill a gap in our product range, and is expected to quickly take market share from competitors."

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So when do we get ours?! Will this be like waiting for other ML things? Are they really making them available to the US and if so, how soon?

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Looking forward to some true reports on this detector. Minelab must be feeling the heat from the newly released QED.

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What constitutes a true report?

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Looks like the new GMk will be a great lightweight patch hunter.

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48 minutes ago, Steve Herschbach said:

What constitutes a true report?

Usage by people that detect for gold nuggets on a regular basis.

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Thank God its a VLF...now I don't have to buy it. For a minute there I thought they revamped the SDC into a lighter and better ergonomically designed system.

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Let's go back to the start of this thread and boil it down to basics:

"Minelab’s new ENTRY-LEVEL specialist gold detector, the GOLD MONSTER 1000, has been designed to meet the needs of both consumer recreational enthusiasts and small-scale artisanal gold miners around the world."

"The GOLD MONSTER 1000 turns beginners into experts with fully automatic operation in an easy-to-use, high performance detector."

And I will reduce that further to "Entry level, fully automatic operation, high performance".

This is a machine intended to sell for a low price as compared to other Minelab detectors and be a machine you can hand to any first time detector user and achieve good results. This is reflected in the control panel, which has a minimal control set.

Performance remains to be seen and what the experts will think about that. Given the design goal here, this may be the machine to consider for new prospectors in particular.

I think about what I had to go through with my father when it came to metal detectors. After several models he finally took to the Tesoro Lobo. Why? Turn it on, full time automatic tracking. In a nutshell, ease of use. If I was doing it all over today now I am thinking this would be the machine for him.

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With 45kHz operating freq., some sort of auto ground compensation and a "probability of gold" indication, it's quite similar to the GMT in concept, except for external manual comtrol possibilities and - of course - the extra weight that "old timers" like Steve want!!  Lol

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