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Bipolar technology does not look like this at all. Mine is much more effective.

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Thanks Steve, I've got 15 from this beach since July. It was the type of ring that was popular for that time period. (And maybe that area) Most are not stamped with a fineness mark .....so it dates them to the late 1800's to early 1900's. You really have to look close to make out the initials ......Also took me a second to figure out how to shoot a photo, slanted them downward in the front. I love this beach for there are so many things that personalize the rings that I find here.

Tim requested that I return the detector on 9 Jan. I did so the next day. In our conversation on the 9th, he mentioned the certification issues and gave me no great amount of detail. Even if he had, I doubt I would be allowed to publicly post it. Tom Walsh owns FTP, not me. I never made any pretense of considering myself qualified by either my inland location or my relatively limited beach hunting experience. I leave expert testing to those more favorably qualified and located. Should Tim have sold the machine to someone else - guess you have to ask him. My intention with having the AQ was to enable me to totally familiarize me with its operating characteristics, including the action of the various controls and their interaction with each other. This would be building on the few days I had in 2018 and May 2019 with prototypes. I believe that I achieved some useful progress with this as detailed in my lengthy post on this forum about the controls and their function and effects. One of the reasons this was important to me is that I have been invited to review and comment on the user documentation which under development. Also during this period I have spent approximately 3 hours on Skype video calls with Alexandre Tartar durning which he went into great depth on various aspects of the AQ’s key characteristics involving sampling of target and ground signals and how the channels are used to provide information to the user - especially the function of the pulse delay and rejection controls and how they modify the timings. Much of this information is proprietary and I am bound by NDA regarding it. Sorry to disappoint everyone, but it’s been a tough end to 2019 and start to 2020. Long simmering gastric problem put me in the hospital for 3 days this last week - I got out on Tuesday. Long recovery from urinary tract surgery in mid November climaxed yesterday with another long night in the emergency room and one of those fun catheters to walk around with till I can get to my urologist - hopefully tomorrow unless he has MLK day off. Meanwhile, here are some pictures Alexandre asked me to take since even he does not have a production unit in hand. You may uses them for this forum in any way you like with attribution.

Back out again for 5 hours during a nice lowtide.

No point starting a whole new thread for 1 pic of some gold - hope it is alright to attach it to the end of this thread JP? Found with an Equinox 800 in Gold Mode 1 in amongst some trash next to a relatively large old timers hole. Essentially right on top and an easily found target but I honestly probably wouldn't have found it without a VLF. So much trash around I doubt that I would've persevered with a PI. Smack on 1 gram 🙂

During the winter here in the Chesapeake bay my main goal is to watch for the best conditions, then try put and myself in the right location to find gold. I seen a Opp coming Monday mornings lowtide, No winds and calm water. Perfect conditions and I knew where to go, a spot that has been very good to me since July 2019. First target of the day a Nice 14k cigar band, 45 minutes later gold ring number two for the day. A Victorian ladies gold ring, no fineness mark. Ring was badly stained. Third and final gold came as water was starting to get rough. Cutting across in the water and headed in I got a strong signal, two scoops and out came a badly stained gold band. Unmarked / No fineness mark which is very common for this beach since it opened in the 1880's. Not many targets this hunt, 3 gold rings, 2 coins, several sinkers and a few pieces of brass in a little over 3.5 hours. Water temps are now in the low 40's, a month from now should really be some great hunting with constant lowtides and NW winds......water will be in the lower 30's but I can do about 4 good hours with my drysuit setup....Thanks for looking...Joe

No problem Steve. Your inquiry and comments were totally legit and caused me to think clearly back on how I ended up where I am with this. I re-read my post and wish I had let a bit less annoyance creep in - thanks for the prod. After going on three years as gadfly and cheerleader, I am about to launch a new effort as a dealer - likely restricted to the Impulse line as it develops. My objective in the whole AQ thing at this point is to build my competence and knowledge of the device so that I can leverage my understanding of these things as well as my ability to “reach back” to FTP - all in order to make folks interested in choosing me as their dealer when they decide to buy one

Me. Think CTX 3030 and Equinox. Was anyone interested in paying for a lighter housing and a little bit of new tech on a machine that's already essentially out there? I ditched my CTX 3030 the minute I got my hands on an Equinox. I also have an iPhone now instead of a rotary phone, but I am sure my iPhone is no better at making phone calls.

I'm back. I'm sure glad to know you are back at it around here. I had wondered about the mysterious man from down under. I saw some good gold from Norm and company at Tom Wells Road. Lu won a salt lamp with a token. I got Curtis out there picking up coins. Last year he just sat in his stroller. Next year he will probably find more than me! Mitchel

I have to be honest and say something seems odd about all this Rick. Given your original excited post about unboxing videos and such it sure fizzled out quick. I understand you were not well for a time, but it also seems there was no rush to return the detector to FT so quickly if it’s just going to sit there waiting to be updated. I know if I had had my hands on the detector it would have been like any other detector I’ve got my hands on. Closeup good photos of the machine from every angle possible, including coil, battery, and rod as separate items. Weights and lengths on all components, etc. There is a lot that you could have shared about the machine without it ever leaving your house. See my Nokta/Makro Gold Kruzer Review of an example of what I am talking about. And while you don’t live at the beach, no air tests on coins? No tests on a buried nickel? It just all seems weird to me that you had this machine in your hands, and then so little ultimately was said before you sent it back to FT. You get this first example of a long anticipated detector, and basically just post a couple pictures of it and send it back? I can’t help but get the feeling there is more to the story than you are letting on here. I’m not questioning your word on anything you have said at all. I’m just wondering why so little has been said. The lack of any more photos is especially puzzling to me. It’s like you were all excited, literally a kid with a new toy under the Christmas tree wanting to tell everyone about it, and then completely lost interest in sharing about the new toy.

I would just be happy to see the stock machine released. Rick's production unit had to be sent back to meet regulatory certifcation upgrades. Looks like we are still several months away from release. So talking about aftermarket coils seems like next year's issue, at this point.

Hello everybody yesterday was the best beach handing day so far. Why? Because I chose the right place. What was the right place? The beach in front of a close for winter beach bar. The result was 38.40 euros and a silver cross. Think that I search only the half beach (I didn’t have enough time) looking only for coins and silver with discrimination -10 to +17. If I can make it, I will go soon at the same place and I will tell you the results.

I'm going to make my prediction now. GPX 6000, mostly the same as the 5000, other than the chip system to prevent off brand coils 😀

Jerry is super knowledgeable and after reading a few of his posts back in the day I sought out and read all I could find. I’m glad to hear he is doing well. Thanks Mark.

Regards Rick, I hope better soon !!!! I heard unofficially that Fisher informed the distributors of Europe that in May it will be on sale !!!

Thank you LE.JAG for bothering to put the subtitles in Spanish. Great find

You are probably wondering why I haven’t been sharing experiences of using the AQ here in Gold Canyon. Good question. After New Years, it became clear that some relatively minor modifications to the production configuration of the AQ were going to be made in order for it to meet all the certification tests required to meet the requirements of each of the required agencies. In conversation with Tim Mallory, I agreed that the best course of action was for my AQ to be retuned to El Paso and returned to me when it was identical to the final production configuration. Add to that, the fact that I spent last weekend and a good part of this week in a local hospital enjoying “bowel rest” after an intestinal blockage, and I have been pretty “non-productive” - lol - (that was the problem, anyway!!!). Everything is fine now with me but my AQ is still with the crew in El Paso. Meanwhile, the days are sunny, but the evenings are chilly - I’m enjoying Long walks in the sunny mornings and relaxing evenings watching the fire warm the living room, burning the dead palo verde, mesquite and Ironwood that I gather in the desert. Most of it was cut years ago by the power company when they removed trees from under their transmission lines.

JP did get those small bits at depth in Australian soil. That was me just tweaking a friend! Everyone says they hate hype so I have been underselling the capability of the Equinox in nearly all regards. Part of the fun of the intro has been sitting back and letting people discover this machine for themselves. I think Equinox will end up displacing most single frequency gold nugget detectors eventually but it may take a model make specifically for prospecting for that to really happen, or at least some coils made specifically for the purpose. The power is there for sure, Multi-IQ is really powerful. Just mind my caveat - it is not a GPX 5000 or a GPZ 7000. However when it comes to weight and price that’s not entirely a bad thing. When it comes to gold in Australian soil however I have learned to never speak for Aussies so I can promise JP will be saying a lot more on the subject soon. Just hang in there folks!

Had the great pleasure to chat with Jerry *** aka tinfoil. For those who might not know this guy, back in the day, 20+ years ago he was one of the treasure hunters who wrote a lot on finding gold. He wanted me to mention that he and Pat are doing good. That he doesn't get to hunt anymore but remembers posting many years ago. He says hi to Steve too.

Great roundup of specs, Steve. Couple of comnents. I know the "inch equivalent" dimensions are approximate, but regarding the HF elliptical, 24 cm = 9.44 inches so I typically refer to that as a 9.5 x 5 inch coil. All the other inch equivalent dimension approximates are close enough within a few tenths of an inch. FWIW - there are software backwards compatibility issues with the newer coils. The original LF coils will work with any version of Deus software from Ver 1 through Ver 5.21 (the latest release). The HF coils and X35 coils are not compatible with SW below version 4.X and the X35 coils require version 5.X for full functionality (the HF coils have full functionality with either version 4.X or 5.X software). The Deus SW upgrade features allow you to roll back to any previous "stable" or "bug free" version of the Deus software though coil functionality is limited as stated above and HF coils should not be "downgraded" to ver 3.2 or below as you may "brick" them, rendering them unusable and requiring a trip to the repair facility for recovery. Note that any time you upgrade or downgrade software versions, all custom program and controller/coil profile settings are deleted and reset to factory defaults. Now that I have confused everyone...enjoy the info.

very nice rings 👍 Joe, you never tried a vision seal for water https://www.amazon.fr/Reef-Scope-Underwater-View-Blanc/dp/B00I50NPU4 when the water is clear enough saves time to locate the target without putting your head underwater // she doesn't look very hot 🙂 fix next to the sieve, could be useful...

Man Joe, you are killing it - good for you! What is your theory of the similarity of the insignia rings? It's like an entire ring set in different sizes. What are the letters? They are so stylized I can't really make them out. Very interesting.

Hi ! Greaaat neeews here !! A friend come at home today, we worked on the GPX. The Ribbon cable cleaning have not resolve the problem... After made some test with each elements from his GPX on mine, we find the problem comes from a bad contact in the disc. A simple solder should resolve the problem for sure ! Thank's to everybody for your help. Best regards from France. Luis.

when i put the disc in the water she just moved / I can't hear her anymore until then, the sound does not vary / it is still in place my gamate, from the tip to the yellow handle is 45 cm = 17.71 ' it's hard to say how much she was and that’s not the purpose of the video .. but it was pretty deep also note, that the ring is a small diameter it does not pass to my little finger larger diameter / good weather condition see a lower carat (18k this one) = easier to detect we can largely hope 20 '

If someone sends me an x-coil I would gladly test it on the QED 😁 I promise I'll send it back! If you were to go with the 15" X 10" x-coil you could possibly forego the 14" Coiltek and replace it with a 20" spoked Nugget Finder? Being an older style bundle wound coil it should handle the ground better whilst also giving you a big foot print for patch finding, good depth and it runs nicely on a QED. It is also surprisingly light and well weighted on the QED for its size. Between your 11" Detech and a 15" x 10" x-coil I'm not sure that the Coiltek would be filling much of a gap? Just my thoughts 😉

Footing the sand is the faster way to recover the targets... We dont ear the comments and the sound of AQ in the vidéo... except " viens voir " " la vache " 😂 the nox dont have any signal with the ring ? Did the AQ was able to take this ring at the initial deep in réject mode ?

Ι hope so, but i have to reduce the discrimination and i estimate to find 1 ton of aluminum before i find the gold ring.😂

Haha, Minelab have the reputation of building detectors that perform and improve technology. A 5000 without coil options will sell like a dinner plate wired to a cardboard box....on a stick of course... 😉

Perhaps Its just Minelab attempting to recreate the wheel.... you'll notice that 'time constants' are mentioned as well as the sampling (measuring) period which are all PI references. The only constant wave part is during the receive- sampling section of the code....which shows its more of a hybrid system with perhaps PI as its core....remember it still has the same audio as the GPX's and the dual channel MPS (which isnt acknowledged but easily heard by any operator) reverse tone audio responses. Maybe someone can correct me, but I seem to recall the very few references of the operating frequency being in the PI ballpark also..... Minelab technicians also referred to GPZ as a PI type when it was released initially. I 'feel' that going by user experience and the tech-speak, the 7000 is a hybrid PI with a fancy name. But of course the tech works......and works damn well. Hopefully ML expand on the tech and bring us all something even more amazing

Hi all, Does anyone know anything about this little beauty? A mate of mine bought it brand new a long time ago and found it when cleaning out the shed.

Which means in all likelihood it will be 6 months away 😩

From the same doc referenced by Dave above "Another disadvantage of PI is its capability at detecting very large nuggets compared to CW metal detectors, such as ZVT. CW means Continuous Wave and includes all technologies that do not have zero transmit periods (almost all technologies other than PI). Zero Voltage Transmission (ZVT) – ZVT has the same major advantage as PI for ground balancing in not detecting the major soil component X, but has the same advantage of CW metal detector technologies compared to PI for detecting very large nuggets because ZVT is CW (unlike PI that is not CW ), and also the same advantage as PI for being relatively insensitive to saline soils compared to VLF.

Yes, A friend have a 4500 too. We tried all, the problem come from the box... Inside nothing looks strange...

I found this 1946 $2 gold coin in a pendant today. Found with a kruzer in 3 tone mode, disc3,notch 4, gain 92, pp 8 inches, GB 81, range up 25 to 27. Thanks for looking!

Popcorn ready .....

Thanks, for comments on my video for AQ, I don't have the final product Rick stole it from me :)) I have the last pcb of series but in a ventral case / and not the last sticker it's not very good for videos .... 3 days ago I found a big gold ring really very deep I'm still going to make a short video of this hunt the depth of the ring is clearly visible on the film, and should surprise many of you :)

Robert Verish is a Gold Basin meteorite expert. He has published many articles on the finds made there. Here is an article where he 'puts it all together' and lets you know what you have found or what you could find in Gold Basin. There are more updates if you are interested in the area but this is a primer. I know I could say that I've found over a pound of meteorites from there over the years. http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2008/aug08.htm Mitchel

Thank you....Here is some info on the sifter, McMaster Carr is where I get the mesh when I first started..............some one just asked a few weeks ago so I did a vid for them also.. Also a friend of mine got me something called Rockshield Mesh...which has been the best I've used...he works construction, they cover the pipes with it then fill in with rock, the mesh protects the pipes. http://www.typargeosynthetics.com/products/pipe-protection-underground-marking/protectamesh-hd-rockshield-mesh.html

I've been hunting a lake nearby for the last week, so far, every hunt has produce some nice silver or gold jewelry. Today I was able to retrieve 3 more rings, 2 silver and 1 junk. I found something else, but, I'm not sure what it is. Here's my setting: Park 2 Manual GB Sens 22 2 tones Iron bias 0 Tone break +5 up Tons of trash to wade through to find a keeper, but, very satisfying when it happens.

I'll tell you manufacturers what I really need and am will to pay top dollar for. A detector as powerful as a GPZ but with 100% accurate ferrous discrimination. Even the best VLF detectors pick up too much flat steel and broken square nails in old mining areas. If there is a payday waiting for me it is in areas full of ferrous junk where a VLF does not go deep enough but a GPZ or PI will kill me digging junk. Forget more depth and give me genuine, accurate ferrous discrimination in a detector more powerful than the best VLF. For that, I will dig very deep into my wallet, and that's a promise.

I agree relicmeister, i am using the equinox and the orx and have to say its a deadly combo, couldnt be more pleased.

I also have the equinox 600 and XP Orx as my main (and only) detectors, which I use for relic hunting. More and more I see hunters liking the Nox /Orx pair having found that they compliment one another quite well.

The ORX is my go to machine on high trash sites.

The price for identical packages are the same. You have different coil and audio options. The package you are looking for is currently advertised for $748 XP like most companies enforces a minimum advertised price. If dealers violate the policy it can result in their termination. Therefore, if you see somebody saying they are a dealer and advertising at a far lower price - it is a huge red flag. Stay away. This is not price fixing however. It is only a rule applied to advertised prices. A dealer can sell for any price they wish once they have engaged you in price negotiations. That is why just hitting the buy button on the Internet is not your best bet. Best bet is to call around and look for dealers that may have too much stock and ask what their best price is. List of Legitimate Metal Detector Dealers

Yep..... It's a good one .....

I might have been out and about having a play in "Field" mode chasing some relics.

That's a shame, because dollar for dollar, the TDI series are among the best PIs available. In my mind, the logical progression of the TDI SL would be to drop the electronics into a waterproof housing (similar to what was done with the MX-S). Keep the adjustable pulse delay, the target conductivity switch and bring back the T-Foot coil that the late Dan Geyer used to build. That would be one of the best saltwater beach set-ups available at any price. If White's priced that package around $1,000 they would hit a home run! They already have the technology at their disposal. White's should be consulting with people, like Reg, who actually use this equipment in the field. There is no need to reinvent the wheel here. A few tweaks and some repackaging would take the TDI to a new level with minimal engineering costs.

Hard Prospector, I use the TDI and SL but that won't stop me from pointing out their weaknesses or limitations. I prefer people know the truth and any solution available if there is a weakness. In fact, I want people like John to point out what they see as weaknesses. I just want that information to be as truthful as possible. It is when people like John point out things that cures or corrections will come to light making a better detector in the long run. Unfortunately, the present management at White's and I no longer have any communications and, in my opinion, there is no one at White's who knows much about the TDI series or how to make it better. Instead, I suspect they will scrap the present design if and when they come up with another rather than listen to dummies like me. Reg