Amazed At How Quickly White’s Discussion Faded

[Joe D.]

1 hour ago, phrunt said:

The Manticore can be my beach machine, It's likely awesome there where you don't care about holes! 

    Leaving holes at our beaches is frowned upon! Even though kids and others do it all the time! Of course we get singled out and blamed, just like at parks; not that there aren't detectorists leaving some also!

   That stupid "big deep hole" Tic Tok challenge is still around with the teenagers, and I've found myself filling in a few of those, so that no little kids get suffocated in one! Asinine! Not easy to do with a scoop and feet, when they bring multiple full sized shovels with them for the beach assault! Of course i detect the holes thoroughly first!

   Those haven't been this bad though:

[phrunt]

🙂 I meant more about holes are easier and once you fill 'em back in you don't leave damage behind, not like a nicely mowed lawn where it's harder to leave it exactly how you found it.

 

[Joe D.]

16 minutes ago, phrunt said:

16 minutes ago, phrunt said:

I meant more about holes are easier and once you fill 'em back in you don't leave damage behind, not like a nicely mowed lawn where it's harder to leave it exactly how you found it!

 

😂Sorry Simon, wasn't throwing you under a bus, just more of a service announcement, and what I've run across!

    But... I heard the Manticore is reeeaaallly deep, so.... is that one of your holes???  Was it photoshopped and edited to look like the states? and I think they changed the head on the guy too!!

   Now that I think about it, my White's will go that deep too...🤔🤣👍👍

[RMiller98]

I for one still use my V3i as my main detector. I also have an AT-Pro, but I only use it as a backup right now. 

One thing I can actually say I like about this forum. Whenever you ask a question, someone is willing to provide you with an answer. Not like when I used to belong to the White's forums. You see, the V3i users seem to be a fickle bunch of users. Now don't get me wrong. Whenever I would ask a question about my V3i on the White's forums, I would always receive an answer, but it was something to the effect of, "You just need to put the time in and learn the detector like I did. There are no shortcuts."

When all I might be asking was for a little assistance in pointing me in the right direction. And, if you ever asked for assistance in possibly creating a program or adjusting certain settings, you were immediately shunned like you had the plague or something. 

Just my two cents worth. 

[KD8GIS]

Spent the last week on AHRPS, Went to Monte's posts, Selected to read ALL his posts, Still reading them.  Always liked his input to the hobby.  That and he seemed to be "White's" all the way.  Having said that I left the forums for years I really have got way behind.  That and I'm coming up on 69 years old. 

 I had been using a couple XL Pros for 20 years, figured that was going to be my last detector. I had been looking at the MXT line and, Well I went for it.  The XL Pro was always taken care of.  I ended up putting it up for sale so I could afford other coils for the MXT All Pro.  Didn't take long for someone to grab up the XL Pro, They still go for high prices. 

 Well i have no regrets with the MXT AP, Intend to keep it till I can no longer detect.  Well around a month ago I seen the MX Sport on ebay, the price wasn't bad so right at the last minute I bid on it and ended up getting it, THEN came back to the forums to read up on it. Well I'm stubborn and intend on making it work for me. I haven't got much time on it, I use the Garrett Z-Lynk and a Z-Lynk adapter and Pin pointer, My hearing is bad and it works for me. 

 You'd think I'd stop looking at ebay, couple days ago a IDX Pro came up, 2 coils,  Very clean, price also low, AH, Ya last minute I threw a bid, Ah Man, Ya I got it, Waiting on UPS early next week. What am I going to do with three detectors? 

 Other than the MX Sport I had bought "Proven" White's detectors, Some just rise to the known great status. Back in 2001 I had the IDX Pro, liked it tested it along side my XL Pro, It did great, Left that detector with my then girlfriend. Have always seen it as a good all-around detector. (Monte's favorite for YEARS) 

 You all seemed to have made the jump to the VAST markets of Digital detectors, Reading on AHRPS I seen some come, some go, Monte will/did put them thru their paces and told it like it was. For the life of me how someone today, new to the hobby can figure out what to buy is beyond me. 

  Marketing.... Garrett and YouTube made a killing. I didn't know till recently that the AT line wasn't the so called top of the line, But I'm sure they had the market share for some time. For someone new to the hobby all the "Settings" of detectors has to be very confusing, Which brings me back to "Marketing" Including YouTube, Facebook,Forums.  Monte also addressed this.  I guess the younger generation really goes for technical and digital.  Each week something new, New and approved. I think some of us older folks decide to stick with what works and make the best of it.

 Man the ground here in WV is like cement, I guess being I have a water machine I better learn to walk on water... 

[Jeff McClendon]

2 hours ago, KD8GIS said:

You all seemed to have made the jump to the VAST markets of Digital detectors, Reading on AHRPS I seen some come, some go, Monte will/did put them thru their paces and told it like it was. For the life of me how someone today, new to the hobby can figure out what to buy is beyond me. 

You have made the jump to digital detectors too!  The MX Sport is based on the MX5 which was White's "digital" successor to the MXT.

I am still a big fan of the MX5. Everytime I see one listed on eBay or one of the forums for a ridiculous price I am tempted but, been there and definitely done that. Moving on.

[KD8GIS]

  Yes it is digital and not like the MXT as it has been compared to. In that regard I have to start learning all over.  I replaced the 10 inch double D with a 5.3, 6 inch Concentric inch coil.  Digital versus Analog signal (beep) completely different. The ground in this part of WV is "HOT"  Plenty of iron contaminated soil.  Shale, limestone, Tough.  What may be the good thing to this is where I'm at there is many civil war camps along the creeks, Troops had to have been swimming as much as they could, Summer and fall were miserably hot. These camps (have been very good for Me) My finds tell me these camps have not been found by others, The finds have been amazing.  Thanks for the reply.

[phrunt]

I've never had the pleasure of owning a White's detector other than pinpointer and I guess at a stretch you could say my Garrett 24k.  I have a couple of T2's which I believe are just a bit more modern of an MTX, would there be truth in that? A digital MXT?

 

[KD8GIS]

  I've done 40+ years of Analog detecting.  In the little time I have had with the digital MXS what I have found is "Signal sizing" and "Signal shaping"  a target.  The MXT (analog) will give me a nice tight compact beep on a coin or civil war button, But if it's a larger target, horse shoe, large nonferrous item the signal will be a large sized signal.  No need to go to all metal pinpointing to size/shape  the target. If my search is for coins sized objects and it's small and tight, I dig it. If it's large, I just pass it on by. 

Now with the MXS (digital) those large targets for the most part give me a compact signal, Which fools me. What I have to do is go into pinpoint mode and size/shape the signal that way. Extra steps in making a dig decision. 

 I'm a beginner to digital, You may never have used an analog machine to see this difference.  What may make a big difference in comparing our experiences in detecting is, What are we hunting for? Prospecting, Beach, Relic, Coin. What is the soil like?  What is the land use history. My West Virginia hunting is on land that's has 300 years of history AND trash, iron infestation.  I haven't been in a park coin shooting in? well 20 years. Never hunted the beach nor gold fields. I have to relearn my detector for each place I hunt, the conditions change with each site. 

 

[☠ Cipher]

On 6/10/2023 at 8:16 PM, phrunt said:

  I have a couple of T2's which I believe are just a bit more modern of an MTX, would there be truth in that? A digital MXT?

Both were engineered by Dave Johnson, so it could be that it was Teknetics version of an MXT.