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Agree strongly with Hugh about iron rejection. Something I would also like to see is a waterproof or at least rainproof. Also light weight, under 4 lbs for sure and under 3 if possible. Even though the GPX's are pretty adjustable I would like a new PI even more so. I don't want it going the direction of the GPX 6000 where it does all the thinking for you. That might be fine for a gold specific version but I also want to use a PI for beach and relic hunting and be able to set it up for those conditions. Wireless headphones and rechargeable batteries. I know tall order but hey why not ask for it all.

I gave the Tarsacci 2 chances about a year apart from each other. Used it at the beach maybe 10 hours, no complaints there. But most of my hours (200 or so) spent with the Tarsacci was relic hunting bad dirt. I compared it to the Deus, Equinox and GPX quite a bit. It absolutely spanked the Deus for depth in my dirt and had the Equinox beat by maybe an inch. But the GPX with a 14" coil left the Tarsacci in the dust for depth. So in the end if I need depth I grab the GPX. Why screw around with a machine that is maybe an inch deeper than the Equinox and is like Steve said a nightmare to get it tuned right. I too could never mesh with the tones and the constant high tone chirp of falsing on mineralization. I ran it in Culpeper 10 hours one day in the rain and fought it the whole time adjusting the ground and salt balance to keep it quiet. I did find stuff down to about 9 inches and struggled to tell if it was ferrous or nonferrous at that depth. The GPX will push 14 plus inches in that dirt no problem and IMO is easier to ID iron. So for me that's why the Tarsacci was quietly sold.

I get down that way a few times a year. But I would say a good place to start would be to join a few or all of the gold clubs down there. GPAA, MPA Mohave Prospects Association and GSSN Gold Searches of Southern Nevada all have claims there. GSSN actually has an outing planned this next weekend Jan 22nd. I was going to try and make it but not looking like it's going to happen. Would be a good way for you to get introduced to the area if you join their club this week.

Yea doesn't leave much.

Did they give any clue as to when the 2nd shipment will go out?

Well there you have it. Good luck getting a Deus 2 on the first shipment.

If it were me, and I have had both. I would opt to go straight to the Deus 2 unless you're on a budget. But it's going to depend on what you're using it for. The ORX is a very capable machine and simple to use. If you need adjustability for tough sites I would opt for the Deus. The ORX has a lot less things you can adjust on it vs the Deus. I would take the Deus just for the multiple tone options alone because I personally don't use 3 tones and I'm constantly changing my tone breaks based on the sites I hunt. Some people only use factory programs and never want to change anything and that's fine. So if you want simple get the ORX if you like to tinker with adjustments, you'll be happier with the Deus.

I don't know if you can revert back to 2.77. Honestly if there was a real problem with version 2.78 don't you think Nokta Makro would resolve the issue? I tend to believe the chatty and jumpy target ID was the result of EMI more than anything. Like I said I never noticed any real issues with version 2.78. Nokta Makro detectors are a little chatty just by nature than other machines, at least all of them that I've owned.

I have read where people had problems with the upgrade and the machine supposedly got more chatty, Target ID was jumpy and lost depth. I personally never experienced any of that with both Simplexes I owned and upgraded to 2.78. I no longer have either one but I thought they were very good machines when I owned them and actually found some good stuff. IMO for the price I don't think you could find a better machine with the options it has such as waterproof, wireless headphones and recharge battery.

When I hunt ghost towns I use iron bias to knock out bottle caps and large tin. The Nox from my experience handles black sand just fine. Ferro check only works on shallow targets, I've never trusted it on any machine on deeper targets. I can totally agree with the switching machines too much. I too have to stop this practice and just find a few good machines and get rid of the rest.

From the looks of it I don't think the Legend will replace my Nox. To me it appears and sounds like Nokta Makro made a detector that almost mimics the Nox, IMO they should have set themselves apart rather than played follow the leader. Yea the Legend is probably going to be better built, has a flashlight (which I will never use) vibration (which I personally will never use) a clock, etc. small features. The fact that the Legend doesn't have iron bias is a big factor in it not replacing the Nox. I also don't want to learn a new set of target ID's, it's already hard enough to go back and forth between the Dues and the Nox as it is. If anything I'll eventually drop the Nox in favor of the Deus 2, depending on how it performs in bad ground.

It was good seeing Hugh, you definitely found more buttons than I did. Glad you wrote up this great report. Brought back memories of DIV 50 even though it was just a short time ago.

Hot rocks with the Deus 1 aren't really all that hard to tell once you've encountered a few. I would assume the Deus 2 will be similar, I could be wrong.

I have a feeling the Deus 2 will do just fine prospecting. Although I know of no one currently or even in the past that has worked with XP directly that is an expert gold prospector. Maybe someone has spoke up in the past and I don't recall or is just keeping quiet. XP isn't really known for their gold detectors at least in the US. Most people turn their nose up at them. The biggest issue is lack of a small 5 or 6 inch coil. I have personally hunted behind a few people using Gold monsters and Equinoxes using 6" coils with the ORX and Deus. The really tiny stuff the ORX and Deus couldn't hear with a 9" coil. One nugget we dropped out of the scoop accentually I couldn't even find on top of the ground with the ORX. That's going to be most peoples grip with the Deus 2, a small coil. For larger nuggets it's not going to be a problem. But sometimes I'm just looking for any size nugget so I don't go home empty handed.

This probably the best video I've seen on the Deus 2 so far. It's worth the 45 minutes to watch it. For those that have concerns about mineralized ground, this is as close of an answer I've seen so far as to how the Deus 2 handles it. Relic mode sounds amazing. That's one I'm going to learn for sure.

This has some good info and observations in the video.

Yea I hope they make a 5x10 for the D2 otherwise I'm hanging onto the D1 with it's 5x10 for hunting ghost towns and gold nuggets. I asked XP about making a smaller coil and they said the chip and battery won't fit in a small coil. I doubt that has changed.

I do but im probably going to cancel it. I have a friend that wants one though so I'll probably stay on the list for him. But personally it's too much like the Equinox for me to want it since I've already got an Equinox.

Nice finds guys! Looks like you guys had a good time. Thanks for the video.

Nice Spanish silver! Sounds like you had a great time.

Wow really nice finds!

I've got a friend that is with ring finders and he gets about 6 calls a month to find rings. One of them he found the guy gave him $500. I though about doing it but I really don't have time. He can spend upwards of 6 hours looking for a lost ring, I'd rather be doing something else myself.

I've got an Apex still and have done the update. I did notice it perform better on my nail coin nail in a row scenario. But it still struggles in my mineralized soil to the point that I only use it in areas that I know have shallow spread out targets. The SMF technology on the Apex is definitely poor compared to other similar priced SMF machines currently on the market. In iron it has very erratic behavior, falses constantly and has a hard time centering on a good target. It's too bad because like was already said the Apex it a very well designed machine and has all the latest features such as rechargeable batteries and wireless headphones.

That's kind of what I'm thinking, although the Legend looks like it's going to do a little better in the iron than the Equinox.