Nokta Legend Vs Equinox 800

[midalake]

They must be releasing NDA'S..........

[midalake]

One item I picked up. The tester said the Equinox was at 23 sensitivity, And the Legend was "maxed out" on sensitivity.  

[Rick N. MI]

I like the first videos on the Legend. Tough competition for the Equinox. 

I want to know between the 2 new detectors which is better on gold earrings and fine gold chains. I want someone to that test too.

[Rick N. MI]

I'll be getting the Legend this spring. I hope there will be a 5x9.5 coil and other coils too.

[Cal_Cobra]

2 hours ago, Rick N. MI said:

I'll be getting the Legend this spring. I hope there will be a 5x9.5 coil and other coils too.

I'm sure they'll make that one, it's been popular on other machines.  I'm looking for a closed loop elliptical DD for brush hunting.  It would also be good for prospecting. 

[Rick N. MI]

I'm looking for an open elliptical dd for water hunting 🙂.

[JCR]

I still think an open frame coil with an optional closed skid cover would er the best of both worlds.

[GB_Amateur]

18 hours ago, JCR said:

I still think an open frame coil with an optional closed skid cover would er the best of both worlds.

Yes, and fortunately it's pretty easy to roll-your-own by buying thin polycarbonate (1/32 in. ~ 0.8 mm will do fine -- available at Amazon), cutting to size and epoxying onto either a skid plate or (if you're sure...) the coil itself.

However, this still isn't quite as good as a closed coil because material can (and will) easily pile up on top of the coil cover in the open spaces between the coil's webs.  On my Mars Sniper 6"x10" (on my Fisher F75) I've covered the top with duct tape.  That works OK but is far from permanent (and looks kinda ugly...).

In particular, for native gold detectorists who like to drop material onto the top of the coil to hear and thus find the nugget, the tape 'solution' isn't very good.  They can still turn the coil over and drop it onto the (now closed) skid plate but that is less convenient.

[phrunt]

I've been reading the Nokta Legend and XP Deus 2 Facebook groups and it's surprising the different clientele of each detector.   The Legend has a lot of followers that are very absolute in what they say, they're adamant the Legend is the best detector available even though they've never used it.  It destroys the Equinox in performance according to them.   If anyone dare say I'd rather wait and see and explains their reason or says they think the Equinox will remain better they're quickly belittled or even have their posts deleted.  The XP groups are so different, more technical and not so protective, it's very much like the Nokta groups are the underdog attacking anyone that questions the detector and defending the detector out of insecurities that they've themselves never used.  It's rather odd.   I guess because I'm not brand loyal at all towards detectors I don't understand the way they're behaving.  I use what's best for me and that's that, I couldn't care what brand it is, where it's made or who makes it I just want which detector is best for me. 

Many of them cite the price as being a big factor behind their love of the Legend, and like to point out how expensive the Deus II is, while I understand liking cheaper products that doesn't make them better, often the contrary.  It's been a very interesting ride following the two detectors and their releases and how polar opposite the two releases have been in just about every facet.    I guess people involved in marketing are experts at influencing people towards their product and use various methods of doing so and certain people are taken in by certain marketing methods.  I have a distrust of sales people, and marketing in general, always have so I prefer to wait and see and let the general public help make my decisions preferring not to listen to marketing.  I'm not generally someone that rushes in and goes on waiting lists and prefer to let others do that and buy one of the second batch or later as we've all seen so often the first batch can be riddled with issues that are later resolved.  Nokta can't act like it doesn't happen to them either, the Simplex is a prime example of that, the wobbly lower shaft, the big batch of faulty coils...   It regularly happens with Minelab releases, I don't know enough about XP to know their initial release quality.

Seeing I'm in no rush I'll be sitting out the initial batches of both the Legend and XP Deus II, once the dust has settled and the general public have decided which is best I'll then make my move.  It's not like my current selection of detectors are under performing so I can handle the wait. 

I look forward to hearing the genuine user reports and hope to be persuaded I need either of these new detectors, at the moment it's looking like the Deus II for me although I may just stick with my trusty Equinox, it's served me well, even though it's of poor quality construction according to some to me it's been perfectly fine, I treat it bad and it's remained intact and the performance is absolutely what I love about it.  It's near my perfect detector with current technology, so the new kids on the block have to better it significantly to make them worth considering.

 

 

[HardPack]

On 12/23/2021 at 12:07 PM, Luis said:

 

What is the differences between the “range of simultaneous multi frequencies” utilized in both the Equinox 800 detecting modes and the Nokta Makro Legend modes?  Here is my attempt to explain my concern:

Per the ML Equinox 800 user manual the Equinox provides four (4) detecting modes: Park, Field, Beach, Gold; plus eight (8) profiles divided in two (2) pairs per mode: such as Park 1, Park 2, Field 1, Field 2, etc; and one (1) custom user profile side button.

Park 1, Field 1, Beach 1 & Beach 2 are “weighted” on the “lower simultaneous multi frequency range”.

Park 2, Field 2, Gold 1 & Gold 2 are “weighted” on “ higher simultaneous multi frequency range.

The NM Legend has four (4) detecting modes: Park, Field, Beach (dry & wet) & Goldfield; zero (0) profiles such as Park 1, Park 2, etc; and four (4) user custom modes. All the detecting modes, per NM all modes are optimized for depth.

Currently NM has not addressed nor is there a specification “weighing” the range of simultaneous multi frequencies (low, mid, high) utilized in any of the NM Legend’s detecting modes. 

The YouTube video “Pasture 1” find of a thin coin indicates the “Field mode” may be utilizing a higher SMF range. When the Legend’s user manual is available online perhaps Nokta Makro will explain how simultaneous multi frequencies are utilized or weighed specific to each of the four (4) detecting modes. Certainly an answer I will be looking for prior to placing a pre-order or purchase.