Leaderboard

I've been scatter shot prospecting in the Rockies on my ATV, 20-40 mph winds constant. Normally 50 degree is my ideal prospecting temperature, but in winds like this it can be uncomfortable. It's a struggle to hear signals even in headphones in this kind of wind, but doable. There is very little written mining history, and not much geologic mapping and reports available in this area. This is one of long list of places closer to home which I've spent over a decade researching and compiling information on, to explore during free times like this when work and health aren't preventing me from going to the field and it's too hot to prospect down south. In most cases, my coil is the first to touch the ground here, so where there is gold around, it's almost all very easy targets. The ground is pretty mild here too for the most part, just how I like it. Auto+, easy sailing. Locate gold bearing areas, move on to the next. Quick, tactical prospecting...bring the 15" concentric X Coil on the GPZ in later when I want to find the deeper (and conceivably larger) pieces in the deeper soil. This is the type of prospecting and exploration I truly love. And finally I have a machine in the 6000 that makes it easy - no rig up/rig down time. I can drive my ATV until I see good topography and gravels, be detecting in 15 seconds, then throw the detector back on the rifle rack and be moving on within seconds again, until I see somewhere else favorable looking and do it over. My dog thinks I am reaching for beef jerky whenever I set my detector down. He wasn't too happy to see a camera instead. I got him in 2012 and he has been on every single detecting and dredging trip I've ever taken since then. If he can't go, I don't go. Meanwhile, I've yet to convince any of my non-prospector friends to come out with me even once! Some of these cracks in the bedrock hide nuggets. But sometimes they are just hanging out in the grass roots, or in the soil right near surface too. 25 for the day (one is hiding, mostly covered by the wide boy). I like when things work out with nice numbers, so I chose to stop at a pleasing place. I also think this is the most nuggets I've found in one day, so it's easy to remember. There are many more left, but the gold isn't as important as showing an spot is gold bearing in general to me. I found a few patterns. Have a few theories. My understanding of the area is increasing. Have a bunch more spots to investigate and then I can start searching for the lode sources. A trash shot for Simon so he doesn't feel alone in digging the bird shot. Definitely a few more trash targets than nuggets, but was close to 1-1. Can't complain there. On the subject of trash targets, one thing I would like to see improved on the 6000 or whatever it's successor is, is a faster recovery time. I'm finding it quite difficult to use in trash, especially shallow trash, due to how hard it hits, and then stays "hitting" long after the coil has moved away. In places with lots of shotgun pellets or tinslaw bits, this can make it quite difficult to try to work through the trashy spots. And separately, while I mentioned it in another thread, I really do feel like there is some "bogging" down happening in the electronics at random times that is causing me to not just miss targets in my scoop, but in the ground too. Unless it really just is so directionally sensitive that being off on a swing by a few degrees is the difference between hearing a target and not. Anyways, no product is perfect, and I'm glad to finally have a lightweight, quick machine to use with almost no rig up/rig down time. I got close to having this with the GPZ and 8" X Coil, which thankfully showed up at the perfect time to save my elbow from further damage and I'm very thankful for, but the 6000 just is one level quicker still and requires less "stuff" to tote around, so it's my main machine. I do feel the 8" X Coil does better in heavy salt still though, and the 15"/17" concentrics blow the 6000 out of the water when it comes to depth, bar none. I'd sell my GPZ and just stick with the 6000 if it wasn't for those two coils.

The way you are handling this in good humor, and continuing on, reflects well on you. Only guilty people go into hiding, and your only crime seems to be having provided some much welcomed entertainment. Yeah, some nuts think the FBI and more care about, and have time for, stuff like this. I got an email saying the same, legalistic threats, implying I was culpable for simply hosting the site, and that my reputation was at stake. I'm too old anymore to care about what other people think of me, so good luck with that line of thinking. And if anyone gets trouble from the FBI, it will probably be those wasting the FBIs time with their inflated sense of truth police importance.

Penny signal right? How about 10.65 grams of 18k, three scoops to retrieve. Dig those penny signals! Cliff

It's hilarious the crazy Aussie thinks this is something the FBI would handle, what a joke, I never understand why people care so much about what other people are doing that they feel its necessary they get involved when it's nothing to do with them, if they don't want to read it, don't read it, pretty simple. Aussie TV is full of "reality" TV, it's their most popular genre, from farmers finding wives to endless dating and other rubbish shows, if they're so worried about something being 100% factual perhaps they should be sending the FBI after the people making all these reality TV shows, at least that's in their own backyard. Some people just like sticking their nose into other peoples business with their negativity.

Yeah, the joys of wireless equipment, indeed. It's one thing when wireless is less than reliable, its another when it just it is quirky and its behavior unexplained like the example cited. Thankfully, it appears he was not undone by the wireless BT phones that come standard with the Legend, though. You don't hear the complaints when wireless tech does work, and though wireless is not as reliable or as foolproof as hard-wired, it is steadily improving in that regard (though wired is really the only feasible audio option if the wireless transmitter is submerged). And, as we know, wires and connectors can still break, especially with the repeated usage and strain that comes with detecting with a wired headphone cable and, of course, there is the snag and tangle factor during bushwhacking and target recovery etc. It appears the hobby is heading towards wireless audio being the dominant approach for detecting. In any event, it is good that technology and the manufacturers are providing us the options to go whichever way makes the most sense for the situation at hand as well as accommodating user preference. Regarding the ferro check "haters". I think its just a matter of many detectorists don't really get what "probability" means when it comes to modern digital detectors based on people asking for more "accuracy" from the ferro check meter. They see a number on a screen and think that it is a 100% probability event. It couldn't be further from the truth, especially considering that detector technology is based on a physical principle that is a relatively crude method for determining composition of a metal based entirely off one physical parameter that is influenced by so many variables. Frankly, its quite amazing just how far manufacturers have taken this principle of late, using sophisticated multifrequency waveforms and fast, sophisticated signal processing to minimize the uncertainties and signal degradation that comes with variables such as ground conductivity, mineralization, target shape/orientation and multiple targets and their impact on target magnetic field strength and shape. We now have a number of pretty sophisticated tools to provide a pretty reliable means for figuring out what is under a coil, sight unseen. Anyway, back to my point, most users don't understand that the ferro check is just a probability meter that provides a visual display of what the detector considers a mixed ferrous/non-ferrous target or targets. It provides an alternative to digital numbers and audio to let the user know that the detector is not 100% certain of the true nature of the mixed ferrous/non-ferrous target under the coil, and to inject the appropriate amount of skepticism into whatever TID Legend has decided is the "most probable" ID for the target at hand. People don't realize that if the signal processing and target discrimination were 100% accurate and reliable, there actually would be no reason to have a ferro check meter at all because you could 100% trust whatever target ID is being displayed as truth. Again, there are very few absolutes when it comes to detecting and no good deed by a detector manufacturer goes unpunished.

Not a dumb question at all, I'm not 100% sure actually. The easiest answer is that this gold was initially derived from glaciation carving into ore bodies and flattened out during this process. Except I can't find any evidence of glaciation. Which doesn't mean it didn't happen, it could just all be erased now. Most of the high Rockies were glaciated at various points in time. I see evidence nearby, but at best what I can find here are potential fossil meltwater channels. I don't think glaciers are the whole story though. I have a pretty wacky theory actually. I think these nuggets aren't coming from any kind of modern gravels, but instead from the bottom member of a ~500ft thick sedimentary formation. My theory is that some of this flatness is simply from getting squished by the enormous mass of rock and sediment sitting on top of them. I have one the size of my fingernail that only weighs 0.1 grams. The flatness/thinness is pretty remarkable, and that factor also seems to indicate to me that it wasn't glaciers alone, something else happened. Also, they aren't just flat, under a microscope they are pockmarked with craters, like the surface of the moon. And in many craters, you can see grains of quartz. It's like someone took a hydraulic press and just smashed them and any quartz that was in them cratered the flakes out.

I made it a point to pay attention to the ferro-check today. I went to what is probably my most difficult permission. This location has had human activity (not counting natives) dating back to the late 1600's. Over time there has been a glass house (glass slag all over the property), a blacksmith, a slaughterhouse, a timber mill, a feed mill, a junk yard, and a mechanic shop (he worked on boats and vehicles). The current owner (a friend) grew up on the property - his father had the mechanic shop and what was essentially a junk yard (scrap metal, vehicles, engines, etc..). That's the history that I am aware of. The soil is fairly mild (2-3 bars on the Deus mineral meter) but so chock full of bits and pieces of various metals that I don't bother trying to ground balance. The metal pieces run the gamut - square nails, iron bits, brass, copper, tin, aluminum, etc.. There is so much trash in the ground that I don't believe I've ever dug a target that didn't have some sort of metal trash in the hole. The area that I hunted today (maybe 15 X 30 feet) must have been a burn pile, or perhaps a building had burned down at some point in the past. Around 6 inches (give/take) down it is clear that everything was burned, and in sections there is a lot of what looks like lump charcoal (forget what it ID's at, but it gives a nice mid tone) 4+ inches below the surface. There is a heavy layer of fist-sized and smaller rocks ranging from 4-6 inches below the surface over most of that small area. I never try for depth on this permission, because all the metal trash makes depth an impossible thing. I dug every target that gave a good tone (even 1-way)(provided the target isn't large) as I always do at this location. But this time I paid attention to the ferro-check. I never had a signal that didn't show at least 1 bar in the ferro-check meter, but that's because there was some sort of [ferrous] metal trash in with the "good" targets. I say "good" because a number of those "good" targets were brass, copper, or aluminum. I did dig some targets that the ferro-check filled halfway or better - all were ferrous junk. They were, at best, very iffy tones to begin with. From what I saw today, the ferro-check is a pretty effective tool down to a depth of 5 inches or so. I didn't dig anything deeper so I can't really say just how deep the ferro-check can be effective. I continue to be impressed with the capabilities of the Legend. In spite of the claims made by some, it does very well in trashy sites. So why do I bother with a location that has that kind of metal trash? There's silver in there. Today's take, after about 3 hours of hunting, was 3 Wheats, 2 copper memorials, and a Merc. I also dug a small compact that dates from 1920 - 1925. The brass and copper items were donated to a friend who saves that stuff for recycling at the local scrapyard.

At least four of these bullets would only hit good in one spot as I circled the target but in that spot the ferro check said non ferrous. I went to an old church that I’ve dug a lot of deeper targets. I didn’t get any deeper targets but did dig two wheats that were the same way as the bullets and they were both over five inches. There are tells when digging a target like that. Watch for the wrap around numbers and the sound when you’ve found a target like that. Both will alert you that it’s not good. There’s a difference trying to make a two way only target out to be good and actually getting the right sounds and numbers for it to say dig me. The Legend does very well at giving you the information to make that decision. With some trial and error(a lot of holes) you’ll see and hear what I’m referring to.

I received the 11" Deus II on Tuesday, and I have used it about 6 hours so far. We are slowly becoming friends. Still trying to figure out the sounds and TID of targets. I have not done any update yet. At the local ball field again today with high hopes of gold. I dug a good amount of aluminum, so there is less for next time. The silver ring was likely passed over by the 15x12" Equinox coil in the past, but the bracelet was a recent drop. Ring was about an 88 and bracelet was a 52.

Here is my 82 VDI ring. 13.6 grams 10k.

SEPTEMBER 22 1936 Part Two We walked in and took a quick look around. There were two guys at a corner table and about 8 guys at the bar. Dutch said the two guys at the table were part of the gang. He said to wait a minute and he’d be right back. He walked behind the bar and was talking quietly to the bartender. Then he came back over to where we were standing. Dutch was a big bruiser and full of jokes but I wouldn’t want to get on the bad side of him. Dutch said he knew the bartender and asked him if they had any other friends in there. The bartender told him the guy on the far end was involved with them also. I told Dutch and Jacob to watch the guys at the bar but stay out of it unless we needed them as this was me and John’s fight and we wanted these guys real bad. Me and John walked up to the table and looked down at the two hooligans who were sitting there drinking. I told them we had caught their two friends and had them tied up in the back of my truck. I told them we were sick and tired of dealing with the trash in town trying to steal from us miners. The bigger one just sneered at me and said they didn’t like gold miners. He said there wasn’t one good thing he could say about miners. He said they were real outlaws and they did as they pleased. John told them to get up because we were going to kick the shit out of them. The big one stood up and pulled a knife and the other one was right with him. I grabbed a chair and stuck it in the big one’s face and pushed him over backwards. John swung his billy club and hit the second guy’s arm and his knife went flying. I had grabbed the big one’s arm with my right hand as I came down on him with my left elbow to his face. I heard his front teeth break and he started choking on his own blood. I slammed his hand with the knife on the floor and he let loose of it. In the meantime I guess their buddy at the bar had started for the table and Jacob stepped in front of him telling him to stay back. The guy shoved Jacob back but Dutch just shook his head and told him to go back to the bar which he did. John had clocked his guy with a couple of good punches and he went backwards over a chair. Then he grabbed him by the shirt and drilled him in the face with a good right hand and his nose got flattened. I saw John get on top of him and he was beating his head against the barroom floor. The guy I had was cursing up a storm and shoved me back and tried to get his knife. I kicked him in the side and broke a beer bottle over his head. Then I kicked the knife across the floor. He tried getting up but I wasn’t having it and kicked him in the head. He went down on his face and I gave him a hell of a kick to his right ear. Now he was screaming in pain. John’s guy was finished and I was hollering for his buddy to get up and fight. He wouldn’t try so I gave him one last kick to the side of the head. The entire bar was watching all this going on. We had two down and one more at the bar. John told me he wanted him and he walked over to the guy and told him he was a worthless piece of trash and he was going to beat the shit out of him. The guy was trying to talk to John now and everyone just backed away. TO BE CONTINUED ................

This is a copy of a Eolian patch that I found from an old post of mine. This spread was south of a large reef area and digging hole sloping down to the north. The area in the circle is sloping southwards. About 40 nuggets were found and about half were sitting in the sun having a tan. Most were about 2 or 3 grams in weight. At the bottom of the slope about 400 metres south I got a quarter ounce (8 gm) fairly deep. If I get back that way I know that there is a good prospect for a week or two in untouched ground. This is the old post ............. Click on Nugget Spread below

I'm using recovery 3 also. I have 1 test dime that has a couple natural iron beside it and recovery 3 is working great and was as low as I could go on it. I'll test out in heavy iron. I keep forgetting to look at the Ferrous/Non-Ferrous meters. I'll make it point to look at it tomorrow.

I don't have any of the detectors you listed at the moment so I can't say. Also, none of those detectors is using quality SMF technology so I don't know if it would be a fair comparison. I will say that the Legend's abilities to identify ferrous/non-ferrous is far better than any Nokta Makro detector I have ever used (Gold Racer, Racer 2, Kruzer, Multi Kruzer, Gold Kruzer, Anfibio and Simplex) as far as clearly indicating a ferrous, mixed ferrous or non-ferrous signature for coin sized targets that are not at the edge of detection from my experience so far. All FerroCheck does is give a visual of the ferrous/non-ferrous signal strength and it is really just an adjunct to the outstanding target IDs and tone qualities of the Legend. On a single frequency detector with single VCO audio, and no target IDs like the ones you listed, (Gold Bug Pro in all metal) I would depend on those detector's iron probability visuals much more as a tool for identifying targets than I probably should......

Thank you Steve. See you on the most wanted list along with my mug LOL.

Not the end of the story. I have people in Australia who are bound to stop the journal going so far as to report me to the FBI for fraud. At least that's what they are claiming. I pulled down the sale of the book temporarily to get advice. This Australian is saying I am calling something true that is fiction in order to make money. Nothing is further from the truth. So I will just put the book back up as fiction. I wrote the journal myself based on a true story that I greatly embellished. So find the highest tree & string me up LOL. Those that like the story will keep reading it and those that are mad it's not all real won't. Way too much drama every week over this LOL.

I would like to say that the ferro check is a great feature on the legend. I have found it to be very accurate in recognizing a nonferrous target mixed in with iron. I’ve been running the legend on a recovery speed of only three and it’s ability to locate good targets mixed in with iron is quite impressive.

Enough said… 😉

I’ve got the six inch coil ordered but the eleven inch is doing very good for now. It’s funny why we chose to hunt a certain location over and over. I know going in that I probably won’t find much but I know there’s stuff there but I’ll have to work for it. The one I’ve been hunting pretty hard is an old house site that’s a hay field now and it’s getting close to a wait till they cut the hay. I’m thinking about maybe letting it cool off till next year. I’ve spent a lot of time there with the legend. It seemed a good place to learn the machine. A lot of iron in places and a lot of junk everywhere. lol Its where I really learned what the legend could pick out of iron. I’ve got some good finds there but a lot of what I’m digging are the mid tones. Shot gun head stamps, broken pieces of you name it but they were non ferrous and that’s what I’m looking for. I keep thinking maybe just maybe I’ll find a gold ring or something gold anyway. Hasn’t happened…yet! lol

I think after I'm done exploring and mapping I'll go to one of these spots and work it out with the 6000, gridding. Then go run that 15" concentric over it and see what it pulls up that the 6000 missed, then try the 17" cc over it too. Not scientific by any means, just out of pure curiosity.. My elbow is garbage, so if that 15" cc keeps up with the 17" cc to some degree, then that's the only one I'll be using. I still haven't had a chance to run the 15" yet but its noticeably lighter in my hands. A footnote for others reading this: I don't know if you can even still buy the X Coils in the US due to the geopolitical climate and all. But damn... that 17" cc is a weapon. I'm not exaggerating. It's like having my own personal GPZ 2 in terms of outright depth. I got these right after my last prospecting season ended, and didn't really get a chance to try them until recently, as I was mostly running the 6000 (it's definitely still my main detector though).

The joys of wireless equipment, I was there working as a network engineer through the infancy of wireless networking which is why I grew my hatred of wireless technology 🙂 Although it's improved it's still wireless, and with wireless comes inherent flaws that are just impossible with cable. I do use wireless products, of course as sometimes its a necessary evil for convenience however when using a cabled version of a product is an option and if having the cable causes little hassles such as a coil cable I'd never choose wireless over cable.

That's some excellent gold Jason, very flat pieces. It's awesome you take your pooch along to every gold adventure, he'd love it. The 8" and 15" Concentric are my two favourite coils too. Thanks for the trash shot! It's good to see people showing their trash to nugget ratios! 🙂

Thats a nice haul and low trash to boot..looks like you have done your homework well. The nuggets are of the corn flake variety..which is interesting so I'll take a chance and ask a potentially dumb question since I am more of a detectorist then a prospector...what made them so flat? strick

i will put it this way I am liking the Legend so much that I purchased a second one, so I can mount the six inch coil on one and the 11 inch coil on the other, that way when I do get to go out I will just be able to grab which ever legend I want and not have to mess with changing coils, which that is coming next month my short walks that my wife and I have been taking has started to pay off and I am finally able to go for more then an hour with out feeling like I am going to pass out from lack of oxygen my wife and I are going to be moving into a town in Arizona that has had a lot of mining at one time going on, and the house we will be moving into is rite across the street from a park that from my understanding has been in existence since the mid 1800s, also from what I was told no one has ever been in it with a metal detector, which I actually find hard to believe but it is what I was told by the original owner of the house, we are also preparing our side x side for some excursions or rather I am preparing our side x side LOL

it reminds me a lot of the gold chance meter on the GM 1000 the downside of the ferro check on the Legend is it is only good to around 5 inches max more closer to 4.5 inches and that is if you are not on highly mineralized ground which seems to affect its depth, I will say it has served me well once I learn to use it and finally remember it is there (you would think since I have a GM 1000 it would come naturally but it did not) the times I do look at it when I get over a target it has been very accurate, in recognizing ferrous and non ferrous targets, even when it shows a couple of bars on the ferrous side it seems to be ferrous bottle caps I am another legend user that does not understand the negative comments, I look at the ferro check as another tool to use in identification as to what a target is under your coil

I will wear a hoodie and pull the hood over the headphones. There's also lightweight hooded t-shirts you can buy for warmer weather.

I couldn’t agree more. I also don’t understand the negativity aimed at the FerroCheck feature by some unless it is coming from a lack of time using the Legend. It works very well within the limits that Nokta Makro set for it. Is it perfect…of course not. Is it reliable contrary to what a very famous YouTuber is claiming? It has been very reliable for me on iron targets, steel alloy targets and non-ferrous targets that are giving strong enough signals to be in range of this feature’s capabilities. I have hunted trashy parks on purpose with the Legend for the past 3 weeks. My non-ferrous to mixed alloy/ferrous ratio of recovered targets per hunt is around 60 non-ferrous to 1 or 2 ferrous and those are usually deeper iffy targets that turn out to be rusted iron nails that were out of range anyway. I have dug 4 rusted bottle caps in 3 weeks of almost daily hunts that fooled me. That is out of more than 800 targets recovered with the Legend during that time in thick bottle cap/pull tab trashed areas. Where I detect, that effective range is between 4 and 5” depth on coin sized objects which is plenty for the average steel crown bottle cap trashed sites around here. I have used several other detectors that cost up to double the price of the Legend that are not nearly as reliable for distinguishing shallower steel alloy trash…. I have not been able to use it yet for gold prospecting or large iron relic hunting. I expect FerroCheck will be even better with the user adjustable iron bias settings coming soon. Well done Nokta Makro.

This particular park is good practice for site reading. Interestingly the aerial photos seem to help as they show different shades of color for the grass. Here are a few things I think I've figured out: 1) Anything around modern structures (including streetside sidewalks) is bad news unless it's pre-60's. They always use forms and rework the grassy area within several feet of the finished concrete afterward. 2) Soil type is a give-away. Organic matter accumulates with time so deep organic matter is good. Backfilling around here is usually done with thick, sticky clay. That's inexpensive whereas topsoil brings top dollar. I think they even sometimes strip off the topsoil (to sell on the side...) and replace with clay. I've dug a few deep targets under clay layers but it's time consuming and messy getting through the clay and since deep good targets are more difficult to distinguish from deep (conductive) iron trash, it's a bad tradeoff for me. 3) The kind of grass also tells a tale. Old grass around here is stouter but also not as thick/plush. When they reseed after backfilling the grass is soft and tends to be thicker. And the color of the grass is different, too. 4) Contours (which relic hunters take advantage of) are always good indicators. Modern reworking tries to make everything smooth and uniform. Old areas can be raised (or low). But, kac, I don't see any stripped off layers in piles. 5) A gravel layer can be bad or good, depending upon how deep and how thick. Here (and other sites) I've found coins right on the top of gravel (when that surface was the finished surface in the past) but also under the gravel layer (particularly when it was put down as a base layer to aid in water runoff). I've also found items in the gravel which were brought in with the gravel (e.g. bullets that ended up in streams/creeks where the gravel was extracted). It is true (and I know you've mentioned this, kac) that occasionally the backfilling was done with dirt from an old, inhabited site. As an example, in the early 60's my uncle was filling a low area of land he had just acquired to build a workshop. The town he lived in was putting in new sewer lines and he asked them to bring their unwanted dirt to his site. A few years later he found a sunbaker Morgan Dollar (in bad shape...) staring up at him. Interesting thing about this park is that all of the above apply in one place or another. I've just about finished all the promising (un-backfilled) part but as I showed this week there are a few places that remain.

I offered to help find a ring …. which I didn’t find. But you get that when people THINK they know where they lost it. It was dry sand so I moved on out in the water. I picked up some tiny targets… high conductors just to show even in the salt water the machine does well. The one chunkier is 10.5 grams the other who’s stones are junk is 2 grams both 14k. The odd piece is the one with 24 on it. It has a CB on the back and both test strong for 14k. I use an earth magnet to test for SS…. NADA so I’m not certain what it is….. oh well. 6 hours in the water …. Pure fun. By the way those tiny targets take effort when ya have a scoop with 1/2 holes. Again a learned skill.

I have held off for a bit giving my opinion on the Legend other then my initial thoughts when I first received it so here they are here is my perspective on the Legend which I do own and have used quite a bit,the Legend was ok out of the box, once the 1.05 update was released to us it got a little better but not on beach according to what I seen and read I personally do not detect beaches and most likely never will unless Cali falls off into the pacific, what I seen in the 1.05 update was all good for me and the ground I detect, which ranges from low 80s to extremely mineralized mid 90s on Ground balance numbers, I have also hit some ground that ran 94-98 on GB numbers and was littered with hot rocks the Legend ran moderately stable on the conditions I detected with those GB numbers, but a littered field of hot rocks makes any detector run unstable and not pleasant to use those areas are what I have a Pulse detector for,but I wanted to see how the legend would handle those types of areas, then the 1.06 update was released which for me personally was not good at all, I had differentiating target IDs, just like Calabash showed in his video except had I not seen his video i most likely would not have seen those differentiating IDs simply because I stayed in Multi 1 or 15 KHz most of the time, the differentiating TIDs only occurred when you shut the Legend down in Multi 2 and re booted it back on it was strange to say the least, it also affected my tones simply because when it occurred it would literally throw a dime ID and a quarter ID into different bins and change the tones I had set up, I had a program set up just to detect IDs quarters and higher which means I had everything below 50 notched out when the differentiating IDs would occur a quarter would come in at 44 or 45 which is normally a dime TID, when it would occur you were literally walking past a quarter because of the way I had everything set up with my tone breaks and tone volumes and tone pitch I had it set up to make everything below TID of 50 to sound like garbage, I set it up the way I did because there are days I do not want to or feel like digging every dime and nickel and just want to get quarters or higher, I reported what I was seeing to Dilek and with in two days they came out with the 1.07 update to replace the flawed 1.06, so far with the 1.07 I am loving everything about it, the tones seem clearer, target IDs seem more stable and it seems to run even more quite to me, I also feel the 1.07 has a little more depth then the 1.04 and the 1.05. The Deus 2 I can not comment on and even if I had one I most definitely would never do a comparison between the Legend and the Deus 2, that's just me though. I do have friends that have the Equinox 800 and 600 the 800 to me is the only detector that the Legend should be compared to in my mind, because that was Nokta/Macros goal, I will say when my buddies and I detect together I do not and neither do they notice a huge advantage either way the Legend and the Equinox are vary similar in depth, and stability on the ground we detect, the one huge difference which is the one that swayed my decision to purchase the legend is the build quality difference and that one thing alone to me is the huge difference between the Legend and the Equinox 800 if I detected relic dumps I may have very well purchased a Deus 2 but I do not, so the Legend was the logical decision for me, I may sometime in the future have a Deus 2 but that is up in the air rite now as I feel the Legend is all I need to detect in the areas I detect, I will also tell you that I have purchased a second Legend Pro Pack because I like the legend that much, I wanted a second one also so if my wife wanted to attempt to detect i wanted her to have one to use when we go out, with her ailment for me it would be easier to teach her if she had the same machine in her hands as I am using and it will help her mind to keep working, and anyone that knows me will understand what I am saying about my wife. sorry for the long rant My wife and I got married towards the end of 2018 early 2019 April 1st 2019 was a day I will never forget her and I lived together off and on for several years before we decided we would tie the knot but April 1st 2019 my wife was struck by a hit and run driver while she was walking, which completely changed everything, it pretty much killed her memories so we take it day to day and just try to make the best of it she was also diagnosed with dementia which happened due to being hit by the hit and run driver so for anyone that was wandering about my last statement in my post about my wife there you go

It's running very smooth. I am happy with the depth in my mild ground. It hasn't seen heavy iron yet. I plan on doing that tomorrow. I like the tones a lot better on the Legend than on the Equinox. I guess I'll find out how smooth it is when there is an iron bias for it and the iron bias set to 0. I haven't found anything good yet. I'm going out tomorrow to a couple spots that have been hunted. It is heavier than the Equinox but it feels good detecting with it. I wonder what it will feel like with 9" round coil and 5x9.5 elliptical coil. I would like the 9" coil light like the XP coil. Was thinking about getting the Deus 2 but I'm going to wait for the iron bias on the Legend and see what it can do first. Soon I'll be able to go in the water.

Doing the same thing.

The FBI hardly even go after the mob these days due to the homeland security threats which are real. I think the people at the FBI will be reading Jed's story and enjoying it.

I’m ready to update from 0,6 to V 0.7. I’m going to do one unit and leave the other at 0.6 for time being which will enable me to make comparisons directly.

I think if you like the 17" you'll love the 15", it comes close to matching the 8" for small gold performance while having the concentric depth on the bigger stuff, you really need to put that 17" CC and GPX down and give the 15" a go next time you're out 🙂 The 15" CC is 1200 grams with skid plate (2.64lbs) so lighter than the stock GPZ 14x13" coil. 1360 grams (2.99lbs) for the 17' Concentric with skid plate, which is similar to the stock coil I believe. I haven't weighed my stock coil, I don't even know where it is, out in the garage somewhere but I vaguely remember it being discussed as at 3lbs.

The 11 inch coil. It did great. Better than I would have thought it would. I first went there with my ORX, but once I got there I could not get the ORX to pair with the headphones (don't know why it wouldn't work) so I went home and got the Legend. I had the 11 inch coil on the Legend because I had gone to the beach yesterday. I was annoyed with the ORX and didn't want to take the minute or so to change the coil on my Legend. I'll definitely go with the 6 inch coil the next time I go to that location. BTW - got home and tried the ORX again. The headphones paired right up. Maybe it just wasn't meant to be an ORX day?

Were you using the 11" coil or 6" coil? Good jobs getting some good coins out of that. It sounds it ran very well in the iron.

Thanks, I've noticed a fair bit of negativity towards it from owners of the Legend, but that's likely them not understanding it's limitations, after using detectors like the Gold Bug Pro / T2 and Gold Monster that have something similar you get a bit of an understanding of the limitations involved with that sort of thing and it just becomes another tool in the toolbox to aid with target identification.

Ghostminer we are all behind you. Don't waste your time with them, uses it to keep us all entrained with your gold journal. THANKS AGAIN FROM US ALL.

Anything wildly popular is going to have lots of drama. That's just the way things are. There's waayyy more folks reading this and enjoying it than not. And those of us that like it, are going to quietly read and hope for more. So, carry on GM. Those guys are just trying to get attention. Just ignore the. Really, who actually believes the FBI is going to care about a story. Nevertheless, you now have things buttoned up so, I'll be a waitin' for the next pages!

I think a tiny little part of a prospectors brain always wants to believe there is something to every gold story/rumour. Most are just a bunch of gold tragic romantics who just can’t help themselves me included.

Thanks for the clarification Ghost. I have to say that there were entire magazines devoted to tales of this sort not long ago. Anyone remember Lost Treasure magazine? Only a few people wrote most of those stories, using different pen names.

Yep, Silencing the EMI response makes one think everything is fine, but it's usually with a high price tag - reduced depth. Now if the Deus II has found a way to not reduce depth too much, it would be a huge advantage.

I was back out there in the same spot last week. There are several spots with really bad ground noise, the 6k was moaning and groaning through them especially an old push down to red clay. I fired up the dinosaur 7000 with 15x10 Xcoil and ran it in Difficult to see if I could scare up something beyond detection depth of the 6k. Going through the red clay I got a pretty good target signal. I wasn't convinced it wasn't just hot ground as I dug up wet red clay. Down about 8 inches the target popped out of the ground. In retrospect I wish I had checked it with the 6k, but I was almost sure I was chasing hot ground. I'm pretty sure we all had detected that push the week before since it was about 20ft from where we parked. The 7k running in Difficult quieted the ground considerably and proved it can hold its own, if it wasn't so darn heavy. I'm spoiled by the 6k weight and maneuverability.

I forgot about this particular difference between 600 and 800 models. Compared to my EMI noisy sites I'm surprised 15 kHz didn't work for you. When I get EMI (happened this week as I reported in a recent post) while dry land coin hunting I start with 10 kHz and work up until I find a quiet SF. (5kHz has horrendously bad EMI for me and 4 kHz has such poor VDI inflation -- variable with depth -- that it's about useless when discriminating -- at least for me in my moderately ferrous mineralized soil). I would think 20 kHz would be a good all-around gold jewelry frequency on low-mineralization (dry?) beaches when EMI is present but obviously the table above shows its limited availability, as already pointed out in this thread. Are you referring to silent EMI? That's one thing that people mentioning the good EMI mitigating properties of the Deus 2 haven't brought up as a possibilty, that I've seen. Possibly silent EMI is the goblin in the closet -- i.e. not always present but persistent on the mind since your senses don't pick it up. Maybe I should watch those Travel Channel ghost shows to learn some tips. 😁

Did you search Google Images? There are tons of them out there ('piano ring' or 'gold piano ring') although yours is of top quality (i.e. 14k gold). Most of those there have the 'ivory' keys white. So the concept isn't unique but the quality and value of yours might be.... Great find. The different edge finish is intentional to better imitate a piano keyboard housing.

For those of you who are addicted to this story I have good news. There will be a second season of mining for the year 1937. The saga will continue in a series.

I have been testing the salt balance and KHZ on a small gold 14 k ring and a merc dime and a regular white gold ring and some tabs and various foils , and today i took the Tarsacci out to a high school base ball diamond , loaded with foils most of the coins i found had long been in the ground, and i even found a 7" deep 1944 wheat cent , I managed to dig one foil seen in picture, it was 1" deep , but the thing i like about the Tarsacci is it sees thru the foils and hits coins below the foils that you can not hear , yes silent on the foil in the surface and hitting a coin below it . I can not do that with my ORX .If i get a foil signal of 34 and a coin in 2" under it it still comes in at 32 or is masked , i would have to dig the foil but with the Tarsacci the foils are gone and its just seeing thru them and hitting the coins my settings 3 gain and 0 threshold , 44 salt balance, black sand on . and i even cranked it up to 5 gain, and still no digging foils , at 6 gain you may have to introduce a -1 threshold to knock out the foils but its hitting deep on high conductors and 6" to 9" on rings

New scams pop up as quick as they are put down, and it’s basically an impossible game of whack a mole. You’d have to have dedicated staff to chase stuff like this all day, every day, and still they would just keep coming back. The sad thing is they only do it because they do sucker so many people. If it’s too go to be true……

Had a great time metal detecting for gold nuggets with Steve Herschbach and Steve Freeman (Condor) over the weekend of April 8-10th. We camped out for 2 nights and for the most part the weather was great. Sunday morning was in the teens. But we packed up and got out early due to some mechanical issues with Steve (Condor)'s truck. I can't thank them enough for the great time and conversations. They are both a wealth of knowledge and experience. I had a truck load of metal detectors packed with me which included the the GPX 5000, Equinox, Deus 1, Deus 2 and Legend. But got a surprise when Steve Herschbach insisted I use his GPX 6000 to ensure I would find gold. So he used the 7000 and Steve Freeman and I used 6000's most of the time. We all found gold and that made the trip even more enjoyable. But honestly I could have found nothing and been perfectly content just getting out with them. Over the course of the 2 days I found 13 nuggets ranging from 1 gram down to pinhead sized nuggets, total of 3.2 grams. Some of you are going to laugh, but that's the most gold I've ever found in a weekend. I did some gold hunting 15 years ago in Lost Basin AZ when we had property down there and I could walk across the street and pick up a nugget here and there. And more recently using the Deus 1 with the HF coils to snag a small nugget here and there in Gold and Lost Basin. So most of my experience has been with AZ. I would assume the success I saw this weekend can be attributed the detector used, location and expert advice. So I thank you again Steve and Steve. Below are some pictures of the gold I found and a video (Day 1) if your interested in watching, I'll post day 2 video later. Hopefully Steve and Steve will chime in with some thoughts and pictures of their nuggets.