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If your planning on salt water the Multi Kruzer might be a bit better especially as you approach the salty wet sand. The MK has a dedicated beach mode that alters the ground balance for those conditions. I used it a bit at a brackish water river as tide was coming in and it was incredibly stable. Will try it at the beaches here to see how it fairs but beaches had been closed. The GK should be really good in picking out jewelry from aluminum trash but you may have difficulty separating silver and some copper. If there are some fresh water beaches in your area it should do really well with the small ear rings that most detectors will miss.

I have the Multi Kruzer and love it. If you get the Gold Kruzer and plan on going in the water where the control box is submersed then also get the waterproof wired headphones. I thought the vibrate would be enough to find targets but not very useful in all metal mode or where there is a lot of mineralization as the machine just vibrates all the time so you spend time watching the display. Sparse target areas it works ok but I like all metal mode hunting.

Garrett has a new machine coming out that is multi frequency and many here use the Equinox 800 which is also multi frequency. The trend is multi frequency machines where multiple frequencies are on all the time vs single selectable frequency or just a sing frequency machine. Really depends on the type of hunting you want to do and the area your in. High iron areas do fair better with higher frequency and multi. Mild soils your options are broader.

I have the same detector that I started with way back. They do work but don't go very deep at all. Lot's of new machines out now to take a look at. If your still finding stuff with that ole BH and happy with it then why change? If your in the market for a new machine the big thing is what is your budget?

They could do the stimulus in the form of Zincolns, that should get some out in circulation!

Don't want to hijack your thread here, sorry about that. I did a quick test using a gob of metal shavings from my grinder. I placed a nice thick layer over a 9" plastic lid. Next I put the lid over an open parts drawer that is 5" tall. I gb my machines and used that clean spot to do the following test using zero mode on AT Pro wtih 9x12 concentric, All metal mode Tejon 8x9 concentric and Gen Mode on the MK stock 7x11 dd. Note discrimination modes failed this test as repeatable signals or lack of any made them useless. Tested items were a Barber quarter, seated dime, copper wheatie, buffalo nickel, med sq iron nail, square tab and vintage ring tab with tab still on it. The Tejon I could barely hear the dime, the penny was better could hear it to about 6", nickel and quarter hit around the same 12" or so. The MK did way better even with the isat dropped to 5 from factory 6. Lower is less correction so may drop it down more in the field if it doesn't false out too much. Dime hit in the 7" mark there abouts, penny bit better, quarter and nickel did well and better than the Tejon. Between both Tejon and MK aluminum was off the charts. On the MK the audio was clear as I could hear the targets but had no ID's except on aluminum targets that would spike the machine to numbers higher than silver and often maxed at 99 but didn't alarm out. Iron nail on both those machines was silent which is good and if anything caused the machines to false on either side of the nail. Knowing that good targets don't have an id is going to be really helpful to me in the area as I know that if I get a spike with number it's most likely aluminum. Little blind hunting but think it may work out. Not sure how the big coal pieces will react. Last bit, the 19kzh did better and had a better crisper response on the targets vs the 14 and 5 kzh. 5khz seems to do poorly for me in heavy iron. If it's not blistering hot this weekend I'll take a run out there and make some holes.

I have a couple of options since I don't have a PI. If i use the Tejon I can set my discrim to crackle on the hot rocks and usually doing that, like iron, anything substantial in with it will still sound off but their signal gets dragged down. The smaller concentric coil seems to do better than the dd for some reason, maybe because it has less target separation? Other option is to use my Multi Kruzer in 19kzh all metal mode and watch my numbers. I did try the MK out there in 14kzh 2 tone and 3 tone and did find a shallow ear ring but it was really exhausting. Make matters worse, some of the coal hits upwards of pennies in id. Those large spikes can sound good too. Wonder if a gold machine would do better with much higher frequency? Almost got a TDI last fall to poke around old foundations and do a dig all except some iron approach. Now that Whites is shutting down I'll pass.

If you look at land height you can some times see obvious spots where new dirt has been piled in and where there is older land. One school yard that used to have an old farm house there is a spot that is raised up around the school, bb court and parking lot. Lower parts had many older coins. Unfortunately the are of interest there the farm house had burned down and back of it they had buried all their coal ash so it is almost impossible to detect anything there deeper than 6". I may have to pick through slowly or use my Tejon and play off the dragged down signals to see if I can unmask anything but it's a long shot. No royalties, just some pics 🙂

Nice story. If the park had been redone then check along the edges, sometimes they just turn it over and push the excess off to the sides. The old trails sound really promising. Park I hit here, the greens keeper told me where the old ball field was and also that the park it nearly 15' of fill on the river side! Little deep for my detector but explains the musket ball I had found off an eroded bank.

If it is about the same price your better off letting them service it. If something goes wrong then it is on them.

Looks like the plastic isn't strong enough and the metal threaded collar sheared it off. Could be too much regrind in the casting too. Lucky it didn't get submersed!

That car is awesome!

Tesoro never really went beyond analog and the niche market was too small to be sustainable. Whites really needed to dump some serious $$$ into r&d and haven't done much coupled with the race to the bottom with the new machines flooding the market that are not only much less money but high performers. Who knows maybe they will reorganize. Wouldn't be bad if they teamed up with FT for manufacturing.

Welcome to the forums. I have a Multi Kruzer and got it for the 5khz for deep silvers but finding myself hunting more at 19khz as it fairs better in heavy iron. Don't you have better performance in MIQ mode? Buddies here have the 800's and find the multi performs better.

I was just joking on the likes. Never realized how much this forum get hammered your doing a good job on maintaining it. Maybe get couple of the long time members here to help admin it?

Can we have our likes back? Be good to be able to redistribute them.

Aren't a lot of areas down south banned from digging due to their Civil War significance?

Connector on it looks like the same one used for the headphone/external battery pack connectors. Possible it will work with other Nokta machines with that connector. Not sure if an adapter cable would make it compatible with other machines ie Nokta to 1/4" audio. I am thinking it is using the audio side of the connection, if so then it should work with any machine. Cool idea, too bad they couldn't ditch the big screen and box and use an ordinary cell phone via bluetooth.

Looks like the nickel is offsetting the signal enough that iron isn't masking it. Can do similar thing with my analog vlf where you can hear a dime next to iron that is disc out. Very hard to do that if even possible when the signals are digitally filtered.

They do sell 9v lithium rechargeable batteries now. I recently got these and use them on my pinpointer. I also use the aa's in my Tesoro and Makro machines. https://www.amazon.com/Blackube-Rechargeable-Battery-1-8-Detector-Multimeter/dp/B07VFGC75H/ref=sr_1_54_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=blackcube+9v+lithium&qid=1592481843&sr=8-54-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExMEJXVjMxM1NBOEFaJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMjk3MjI1MkdBSzFWSDdFRDM2MSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNzU3NTEyWkQ5QzlTSTEzT1omd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9idGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl

Good point Tom. Does go back to research. One the nearby towns detecting is prohibited completely. A passerby would never know it unless they look it up in the town bylaws. Probably a rare situation. I never asked on public property and just detected but not the case for private property.

I could add, do some research and look at property lines. Some can be found online, others from town halls. When you said curbside, I would assume you mean the edge of land that is on private property. In my city the first 3ft of my property line is shared by the city but I would obviously ask the owner first regardless in that case. Majority of people are pretty cool about detecting as long as you don't look like your packing heavy mining equipment. I pack lite, detector in one hand, digger and digging mat in the other. Open farm fields, woods I may carry a shovel or foot digger.

Curbside areas I believe are town property unless it is a private road. What you find there should be free and clear. Private properties you should always get permission from the landowner. Churches I would get permission as well. You can talk to the property owners on the finds. Personally on a permission hunt I give what I find to the owner and am there for the hunt rather than the reward. Of course if I found a cache of pine tree shillings I might be swayed to re-think that :) Public schools and parks are usually fair game but there may be restrictions. Checking with local PD or town hall may not hurt. In all groomed grass I personally use a hand digger only and make small flaps or plugs and replace them. A good hand digger and digging mat is a must so you can put the dirt back without leaving a trace. Also if I dig it I take it, this includes all trash including cans etc. Biggest problem we have is there is a few that go out and literally trash the areas with their shovels which puts a black mark on the rest of us and ultimately limits where we can go.

Nice details on that one, congrats!

Maybe not that much of a difference due to the tube size but actually buried target to me makes more sense or at least more convincing. Regardless it doesn't take away from the raw depth that is impressive.