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One of the Meteorite Men, Geoff Notkin has a lot of things up for auction including two of his metal detectors! If you want to see a vast array of meteorites and possibly purchase one at auction go here: https://fineart.ha.com/c/ecatalog.zx?saleNo=8089&ic5=CatalogHome-AucType-PrintedCatalogViewer-071515 I have met Geoff on two or three trips to Tucson Gem and Mineral Show over the years and I've purchased a couple of his books. He is quite a character and quite a nice guy.

It is more than the thought now. I couldn't attach or send pictures from a Chromebook that I have. I still don't know what that is about. Maybe it is the one that has run out of ram or maybe my son changed some settings. Who knows but it is not a forum problem as I once thought.

Gerry, Maybe you and a couple of the other Rye Patch 'old timers' can give some weight to your words. I've made about 20 trips there over the years beginning in 2011 and I'd say I'd be around an ounce or so total gold weight. I remember calling you once about 10 years ago to get some pointers and you gave a few. It took me another 10 years before I took one of your classes. Some of your instructors have found pounds (12 troy oz to a pound) of gold there. They told me and I know others that have found pounds over the years in the 'greater Rye Patch' area. I think Rye Patch proper and the Rye Patch 'placers' could be limited to about 4-5 sections of land. You could probably find a stray nugget or two on lands 3-4 times that size. There were some patches based upon elevation. Some were based upon the ancient lake that was once there. Some had the chevron nuggets and some were associated with dykes. Many were pushed over the years and dry washed and/or detected. I'm not an expert on it but I really like the wide open space of it and I've had more lean days than rich ones but they are all good in my book. Mitchel

It takes some energy to make my beaches pop and we had some recently. We still need more but I thought I'd put up a couple of pictures. I finally got them up by using a different computer! I've discovered I'm time challenged, computer challenged and phone challenged. I didn't know what was not letting me upload the pictures. I've gotten too 'comfortable' doing things a certain way and now it is a challenge for me to put the Google Chrome Browser on a Windows computer. I could write a whole topic on those things but that isn't detecting. Going to these pictures I found a little patch and I worked it like a nugget patch! I didn't have any other options. Before and after this part of the beach there was nothing. I gridded and I circled to get everything I could. It's about $5 and 3 rings. One stainless, one copper and one silver ring in the group. This is the copper lovers. This is the silver which cleaned up pretty nice. All of the beaches are back to little or nothing without some constant wave motion.

Here is a pretty good video showing different meteorites and types. They aren't what you think until after you see some of these pictures.

This is the latest on production by country. I don't imagine that all of it has been accounted for in some of the countries listed https://investingnews.com/daily/resource-investing/precious-metals-investing/gold-investing/top-gold-producing-countries/

That's an Eye Opening video. We often times don't know what we don't know. Thanks for posting.

This will preserve it!

I've had several trips to Northern Nevada. There are lots of places to go in Pershing and Humboldt Counties.

I think of Fred often too. He shared his maps with me when I went on my trip. I'm sure he'll give you a few pointy fingers on your trip Paul. Have fun and stay longer than they want you to stay. Can't you retire there?

I have a scoop made by this company and it is the same as I bought it 5 years later. https://www.borderlineengineering.com/

If you want to buy Fenn's stuff or Fenn's Treasure look at this: https://news.artnet.com/market/the-estate-of-late-antiquities-dealer-forrest-fenn-who-hid-a-2-million-treasure-chest-in-the-mountains-is-heading-to-auction-2119769

Fair enough.

Guys, guys, guys ... push and pull with a little bit of self-interest and logic here when it comes to Minelab. Help rather than attack. What would happen if Minelab would just say 'to hell with it,' we can't satisfy those gold detectorists any more. We're out of that business next year. The users pushed too hard. It just isn't any 'fun' making these any more. Margins are scant. Production overruns and quality control problems in a time of Covid are just too difficult. We aren't going to make any more gold detectors because patches aren't giving it up like they once did. We're changing our business model. We are going to be like the dodo bird and White's electronics. I don't have a horse in the 6000 race because I just don't detect often enough to justify a multi thousand outlay now. Maybe in a few years when the boys get older but until then be a little bit nicer to Minelab and the dealers and we'll have them to kick around a bit longer. Bashing has gotten us to where we are now. Maybe some honest, constructive posting on the Minelab website will get us to where we think they should be.

Here is some real research for your trip. Did you make it there? https://mb.com.ph/2022/05/23/trails-of-gold/

This mirrors my experience with jewelers.

Did the gold test out positive? I found one with a 'nice looking' stone but it wasn't gold either. You need bling at the beach not the real thing.

What he said! haha

Thanks Jeff. I use Field 2 on dry beach sand and feel like it is the nuts. Targets jump out at me and a very good depth also. I use it to and from the wet sand. I'll have to try it in the gold fields the next time I go. Mitchel

The Southern California beaches have been very stingy lately. Yesterday I went out for an hour on a normally productive beach and I got nada! Not a single thing to dig. There were no coins, trash or jewelry. I've been close to that a few times in the last several weeks but not like this. I notice that my wet sand beaches have had little wave energy to bring things in from the deep. This has resulted in a sand build up rather than exposed hardpan and rock beds. Others have noticed it too as I rarely see a detectorist at the usual places. We could say it is the pandemic (fewer drops) or the gas prices (fewer trips to the beach) but I'm going to say it is because of the 3rd year of La Nina. It has caused our drought (climate change) which resulted in less snow pack and less rain. Here is an explanation of ENSO which affects world patterns. https://www.severe-weather.eu/long-range-2/la-nina-update-cooling-warm-cold-season-forecast-fa/#:~:text=It also shows the La,What is this%3F&text=Trends are currently in favor,the second half of 2022. Are your beaches still producing?

Well ... I want a CC for my Z!

How much do you think it costs now to just return a warranty/defective detector? Then there is an evaluation cost. Then there is a cost for repair or replacement. Then it has to be tested and returned to sender. When coming up with a price for the 6000 there must have been an 'assumed' percentage of problems/returns. We really don't have any way of knowing the actual percentage of faulty units but just from a public relations perspective the number of bad units reported is high. Total sales may be affected because some users don't want to deal with warranty returns. Someone in each of the ML divisions is keeping track of this stuff and is responsible for reporting it to management/shareholders. It would be one of the factors used in determining price increases. I'm sure all of the users want this info used to reduce problems. Dealers want the problems solved because they are in the middle and probably can't say what they really want to say because it would challenge their marketing relationship. We're supposed to be happy that we have anything to buy. Welcome to the new world.

You are right. You can't just look at the price of gold or silver. It takes lots of energy and resources to mine these metals so if the costs of mining go up faster than the price then you could have shrinking margins which would make the price of the stock go down. Costs determine if you should even be mining a claim.

How about something like this? https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/ancient-roman-sculpture-likely-looted-during-wwii-turns-up-at-texas-goodwill-180980045/?utm_source=smithsoniandaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20220506-daily-responsive&spMailingID=46799444&spUserID=MTMxNjg2MzE5MzQ5NgS2&spJobID=2240685109&spReportId=MjI0MDY4NTEwOQS2