Feel The Power Of Your 800

[mn90403]

As I was swinging tonight on the beach I remembered the experiments I had done in the afternoon.  I had adjusted Iron Bias for the first time and played with Recovery Speed.  I had run through many of the modes and sounds but didn't get out of Multi.  This got me ready for the beach.

When I got there the tide was coming in but on the way out I had found a 'ring' in the dry sand.  It is the electrical fitting ring, not the kind you wear.  I got down to the wet sand in the dark and finally had some interesting targets.  They were 'easy' to hear compared to my previous uses and a couple of quarters to get started.  Then the thought occurred to me that the 800 is like an instrument and I was 'playing the ground' with it.  I could make the ground sound like I wanted it to so that is what I did.  I experimented and I won't go into all the details but I thought about the base instrument, let's say a piano.  I know what a piano sounds like.  I also know what some of the sounds an electronic keyboard makes which enhances the keyboard strokes.  What is the basic sound of the 800?

I went to Beach 2 because I'm not going in the water diving anytime soon and I went to Recovery Speed and put it on 1.  I put Iron Bias on 0.  Tones are on 5.  Now I have done Noise Cancel and Ground Balance.  Sensitivity is set about 22.  What does the 800 sound like?  A cello or bass.   I can hear everything because I have a little threshold.  I feel like I'm moving a bow over the strings because the ground is moaning.  The targets are coming thru in their normal fashion it is just that everything is 'long' and maybe this is was a smooth CTX sounds like because it uses slow recovery.  It is nice to know so now I go to Recovery Speed 2.  It is a big difference.

All this time I'm thinking about the power of the 800 to see into the ground and salt water.  All of the adjustments are filters on what we hear.  I was pleased to hear it as smooth and I had it on all metal so I could hear the bobby pins.  These settings helped me find the Canadian Dollar because it is magnetic and the magnet.  There were a couple of jewelry pieces so I was pleased with that also. 

I'm not going to keep these setting everywhere because there are places where a fast recovery is needed but not on my beach tonight.  I felt like it could see deeper but I didn't dig anything over 10 inches.  Try the power of turning off most of the presets.  As Kevin Hoagland once told me about my 5000 ... take that manual (as he was throwing it across the room) and shove it.  Get a threshold and listen to the ground.  

He was right.  I took the power and listened to the ground.  Amazing.

Mitchel

[Skate]

Outstanding! The people like yourself who really take the time to learn what the machine is telling them are going to clean up. You can run it fast and cherry pick or you can tune it, slow down and get it all. Well done Mitchel. 

[IdahoAl]

Thank you for sharing.

[flakmagnet]

Good thoughts Mitchel, listening to the sounds the detector makes seems to be a big key with this one - it has a lot of sounds coming out of it. I also thought it was interesting to hear the amount of blanking that goes on when you run a little threshold. Continued good luck.

[Steve Herschbach]

Threshold blanking or nulling tells you two things if you choose to run the threshold where you can hear it. First, rejected items will blank or null as the coil passes over them. You know you have encountered a rejected item.Too much of this may alert you to a need to increase the recovery speed.

On clean ground excessive nulling means you need to check your ground balance and sensitivity setting. An incorrect ground balance will throw off lots of ferrous signals, and if you have these rejected the machine will null constantly. Check the ground balance first. If this does not fix things, you may want to reduce the sensitivity setting. Excessive “blowback” from ground signals can cause target masking.

These reasons are why I prefer to have a threshold sound - it keeps me better informed as to what is going on under the coil so I can adjust accordingly.

Great post Mitchel! 

[Steve Herschbach]

The main problem with people seeking “magic settings” is that there is no such thing. The settings HAVE to vary with ground conditions and target/trash mix. I always try to run my detectors for maximum audio feedback and listen to what they are telling me. The detector literally tells me I am running too hot or not hot enough, recovery speed too high or too low, etc. I do this usually by running 50 tones with no items rejected, which means I really do not need the threshold tone since I hear everything. If I reject any items then I need the threshold to alert me to nulling effects. My settings vary constantly depending on the ground and target mix plus my mood at the time.

Many people find 50 tones too busy or tiring to listen to and I get that. For me a detector running too quiet is like trying to understand a person who has been gagged. Too much information lost and now my detector is not talking to me anymore. I prefer constant feedback and keep volume levels low so it does not barrage my ears.

That said for park hunting I am spoiling myself at times cherry picking and running silent or with fewer tones. Very refreshing I must admit! There are dozens of ways Equinox can be run to suit most anyone and no one method is correct. The idea here should be to have fun and enjoy yourself. Or are you doing this to get rich? Good luck! 

[scoopjohnb]

Only have a few hours of Nox under my belt. But who ever designed the audio should get be very pleased with themselves. This machine is a real pleasure to listen to, no audio fatigue what so ever. The tones have a nice full body to them. Especially that Iron tone is spot on. Its there easy recognisable even the deep small stuff. But it doesn't become annoying. 

[Guest Tnsharpshooter]

4 minutes ago, scoopjohnb said:

Only have a few hours of Nox under my belt. But who ever designed the audio should get be very pleased with themselves. This machine is a real pleasure to listen to, no audio fatigue what so ever. The tones have a nice full body to them. Especially that Iron tone is spot on. Its there easy recognisable even the deep small stuff. But it doesn't become annoying. 

I agree with you 1,000 %.