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Should we up grade from this SD2100 🤣 I like the depth comparison.

Awesome. I bit the bullet and grabbed a pair too 🙂 How do they feel on the neck?? Do they slide off if you bend over to pick up a 2 ounce nugget off your kitchen floor??? 🙂

The best improvements they could make would be: 1. Wireless audio. I was not given a necessary budget to include a Qualcomm aptX LL chip, though we did have a prototype built with it included! 2. Improve coil manufacturing. White's process involved a lot of 1970's technology, with no automation - all hand-made and tuned. Watching the production workers hand tune the coils with ferrite, wire, and foil made me wince every time. Did you know that the dielectric constant of epoxy changes over temperature? 3. Improve the battery system and housing. A rechargeable LiPO will be cheaper to manufacture, and the plastic housing is finicky in the current version. The 24k was the only real "new" detector I got to head up development for at White's (I don't count the MX7 and TDI BH since they were not new). I really hope Garrett can continue some of the other projects we had going when I left. They need to focus more performance than marketing to keep up with Minelab.

a Chicken nugget??

Yes let’s 😊, the less 7000’s that are out there the better then there’s less competition for me. 😝 But seriously the 6000 is a no-brainer, the weight factor alone justifies itself then the ease of use on all sorts of ground types combined with extremely good performance make for a pretty unbeatable combination in the majority of people’s hands. Probabaly the only negative is the detector expresses itself very freely and can be a little unforgiving in a new chums hands, poor coil control in harsher ground types will punish the operator who is unskilled in the types of actions that can exacerbate a highly sensitive detector. The 7000 thanks to its Super D coil whispers over the same ground types, whereas the Mono on the 6000 requires a bit more control. So even though the controls are simple training should still be offered, and taken up, on how to swing the detector and understand what its behaviours are. JP

I`m erratic as, all over the place, tried raking, chaining, roping, dragging a boot etc etc... just over that creek/hill/mountain keeps calling.

The son of my wife’s Besty just bought an uber historical house on an Uber historic 4-acre piece of land in Connecticut. I won’t mention the town yet but it checks every possible box for detecting dream House built 1734, an acre of home front. Plowed field adjacent, and woods on one side. Documented history took place there. I have to wait till he’s settled so early July. I’ll take the time to research and plan. The owner wants to do some detecting with me otherwise the deal is I can keep what I find - but split any high value find if any. anything historically important will be donated to the historical society. we will go for weekends as it’s couple hours away. I’ll be using the Orx and Deus lite with all coils plus the Equinox with 11” and ( by then )10” x 5” coiltek CANT WAIT!!!!!!!!

More marketing words: What type of nuggets does a 6000 miss? Maybe you'll find out! (It misses less than the rest.) Translation: Wouldn't you rather find out what all the other detectors didn't see? (You have to buy one.) (I'm relying upon the engineers and testers to make a real difference here. I don't need to know the technical details.) What about the cost? What was the 'value of money' when the 5000 came out? What was the price of gold? How about the same questions for the 7000? (Maybe someone else can give the real numbers.) Let's just say money is worth less now and gold is worth more so that means a $6000 GeoSense is priced less than it seems and you can't afford to be without the latest and greatest if you use a detector more than once a week. haha (Make up your number here.) Resistance is futile. It's only money and there are a limited number of nuggets left. Did I win the marketing contest yet? What are your lines?

Not for nothing but my hunch if I turned a ring into the local PD, I would almost guarantee after 30 days they would tell me they found the owner and it would instead find a new home on their wife's or GF's finger.

Erik, I have studied this topic in-depth. It's an intriguing dilemma for an md'r who wants to "obey all laws". Basically it boils down to this : All 50 states have lost & found laws. They were born out of wandering cattle laws of the 1800s. The wording varies from state to state, but there is always a dollar valuation cutoff . So in CA, for instance, if you find something worth $100 or more, you are required to turn it into the police station. If no one claims it within 30 days, then you can come claim it. And if the police will run a "found" ad in a local newspaper. If you intend to claim the item, then you must pay the cost of publication for that classified ad. Other states might charge you a 'storage & handling' fee if you intend to come back for it in 30 days. The law makes no provision for how long YOU think an object was lost for. Ie.: even if you strongly suspect the ring has been lost for 100 yrs, makes no difference to the law. Because, otherwise .... gee .... everyone would twist it and say "Shucks, looks like this has been here a long time". And would simply flaunt the law. Also the law makes no provision for YOU to try your own repatriation attempt @ looking for the owner. Eg.: Pinning a note to a telephone poll, or using the CL lost & found section. It simply says to turn it in to the police. The law also doesn't say how the $100 valuation is arrived at. Ie.: Is this the intrinsic melt value ? If so, do you go by pawn shop offers ? Or a refiner who's paying 95% of spot ? Or do you go by the value when new in the jewelry store case ? For example: Is an I-phone worth $500, since that's what someone pays to get one ? Or is only worth .30c of intrinsic melt value (a bit of silicone, copper, plastic, etc...) ? So I asked a lawyer this question, of how to value an item, to see if it triggers the state's L&F laws. He thought for a moment and said: "Turn it in to the police, and let THEM decide how they want to value it". Doh ! Needless to say, no md'rs are keeping this law. A quick look at any md'ing forum's show & tell section, shows no shortage of md'rs posting their bragging rights beach rings, eh ? Ok, how many of them do you think "ran to the police station to turn them in " ? And it must not be a big deal to law enforcement either. Because otherwise they could simply monitor our forums, and go around busting people, eh ? But obviously, they're not. Thus basically : Do you want the technical legal answer ? Or do you want the realistic answer ? Do you want to be fully law-abiding ? Or are you going to "wink wink no-one-cares" on this particular one ? 🤪

Got em today and am blown away so far with music...... Sounds like Dave Matthews voice is in the middle of my head..... WOW.....

Yeppers! My moto "WTF.... runamuck!"

I just accept that fact that I am a treasure hunting pirate. Once I find it, it belongs to me. What I choose to do with it after that is my own decision to make. Regards your treasure question.....ownership is part of the project research, just as you need to research the source of the treasure, you also need to research the potential ownership claims on the treasure. Then you decide what would be the best outcome for your project should it succeed. HH Mike

Do Zincolns count?

A 2 ounce chicken Nugget....I'd take that too 🙂

What would you do if they didn't still have it? You'd have to prove ownership of that exact ring.. And the cops probably wouldn't love you too much for trying to test their honesty.. My guess would be that this would come back to bite you on the arse, maybe in the form of unwarranted speeding tickets.. 😬

More like your digging targets that you may normally not have dug because the machine is different. One the reasons I use different detectors over old grounds rather than beat the path with the same stick. There are exceptions to that when it may come to depth when one machine may not hit a particular target as deep.

I wasn’t going to, really... at least not at first anyway then it all begins to add up. I’m doing more exploring trying to get into the more remote locations, I have a 2300 but as good as they are I’ve never warmed up to it that much and it’s noticeably less sensitive than the 7000 so not ever my first choice. Seems no question the 6000 is equal to if not better sensitivity wise on the small stuff and good on everything else, set up is fast and the detector light. I’m 68 and although I’m still able to swing the GPZ from sunrise to sunset I’m feeling it more and more, a three day trip takes 3 days to recover from. I’ll keep the 7000 and my plan is to make a place for it outfitted with the 22” x-coil when they are available and possibly a spiral x-17 as well it’ll be my dedicated deep detector. The SDC2300 I will give to my son in Colorado, although there may be some benefit shallow water diving I can’t see my self doing that more than once or twice now that im living in southern Nevada.

Baby boomer's requiem, and even a millenial can use it

I've already posed this question on Jim from Idaho's post in relation to gold bars, but I'm curious about the general consensus among detectorists.. Is there a time period after which the 'finders keepers' rule applies? I'm asking because I face this dilemma every time I find valuable jewellery (especially wedding rings) on the beach, whether to turn them in at the police station in case someone has reported them lost or to hang on to them and keeping quiet.. Value could not just be monetary but also sentimental.. Thanks for your feedback to a question I'm sure plagues the conscience of other detectorists as well.. Edit: just realised I've posted this on the wrong forum, it should be on the 'Metal detecting for jewellery' forum.. Not sure how to change it..

I was checking CNBC and copper hit 4.599 cents per pound.That puts the copper penny at over 3 cents for each one. Save your copper it is the new oil according to a article on CNBC plus recycling is always good.

Had an awesome month using the Fisher AQ on the low tide wet sand slopes. Ran the AQ mostly in "tone" mode but did spend some time in "all metal" when trash targets were not too bad..All I can say is that I love this machine! My trusty Sov. GT is starting to collect dust now and the AQ has become my go to detector and the GT my "just in case" back up. I started out April with a very crusty 10k class ring. Soaked it in CLR over night and removed all the crust, here's the kicker though, as I was sitting on my couch looking through my loop at the ring trying to figure out the date on the class ring and other details, I fumbled the ring in my fingers and it dropped directly onto my tile floor and shattered into pieces! I spent about 15 mins carefully gathering the pieces along with the Ruby stone that was in the center. I was going to scrap the ring anyway but I did want to get a picture of it after clean up before I did. There is a date under the eagle, its very hard to see but it looks like "1955". The rest of the rings are 14k, with one having CZ stones and the one on the right with real diamonds. Also found what look like two gold tooth caps, acid tested good for 18k. The last gold item of the month was a 22.1 gram 18k (750) gold Rosary found way out in the negative low tide wet sand plateau. I searched around the area thoroughly for the cross and the rest of the beads but had no luck. Also an honorable mention on the silvers I found, The silver heart bracelet is Tiffany & Co and goes for $275 new https://www.tiffany.com/jewelry/bracelets/return-to-tiffany-love-tiffany-blue-heart-tag-bead-bracelet-GRP09904/ Also found a silver Gucci stud ear ring, a pair goes for $245 https://www.gucci.com/us/en/pr/jewelry-watches/silver-jewelry/silver-earrings/silver-interlocking-g-earrings-p-356289J84000702?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1_Ofj-qu8AIVcz6tBh3eJwziEAQYAiABEgKm0vD_BwE So gold totals for the month are: 10k- 5.8 grams 14k- 20.3 grams 18k-22.1 grams Tooth Caps (18k) - 3.5 grams Now onto May! Thanks for looking & Happy Hunting!

Careful about dropping your nuggets on the floor mate !!!----- That may end up being a "sore" subject--- 🤣 I would love to hear the chatter at the Doc in a Box after you left.....

MineLab GPX6000 , Resistance Is Futile !

Crikey mine are sitting at PO waiting for collection a few 100 ks away, I`ll be droppin my nuggets then............🙄

Good post. "Cultural heritage" issues are always a part of any fed. or state land. So that, even if some form of federal or state land has no laws that forbid md'ing, yet you're right: It's going to be with the caveat that: As long as the items you're finding don't bump into cultural heritage issues. For example: One time I was detecting a NFS campground in the Sierra Nevadas, that dated back to the CCC days (1930s). A ranger truck *just happened* to drive past me. He stopped, rolled down his window, and began to tell me : "You can't metal detect". But after some casual conversation, he changed his tune and said : "You can detect, but if you find any coins 50 yrs. old or older, you need to turn them in to the ranger station" (that was 25+ miles away, blah blah). I replied "Ok". He left, and I continued detecting. And ... of course.... I did not find that 1920s walking half that day, nor the wheaties 🙄 State parks also invariably have some type of wording for cultural heritage, even when not *specifically* forbidding md'ing. And not sure about other counties, by my county (Monterey County) does have some boiler plate verbiage for our county parks. Not sure about city parks in CA. I highly doubt they go to the trouble. But if they do, it's simply "cut & paste" from other entities, and I highly doubt they *really* care if someone finds a 51 yr. old coin. In this hobby, it's no longer a matter of "Know and obey all laws". It's actually a matter of applying the "Does anyone really care ?" test of things. And "don't swat hornet's nests by asking silly questions" test of things. Yet, for some reason, some skittish md'rs will "fret themselves silly" as to whether or not a screwdriver constitutes "deface" or "dig", blah blah. If those persons were alerted to the myriad of things that *could* be construed to apply to their actions (L&F, disturbing earthworms, cultural heritage, alter deface, harvest/remove, etc...) they would immediately drop this hobby, and take up needlepoint.

What about the antiquities laws? (Which one? Take your pick.) What about claiming metal detecting finds as income on your tax returns? With the rare exception that some zealot or enemy makes it his/her vendetta to turn you in (and insist you are prosecuted), the 'authorities' don't really care. Unless... there is considerable value involved, meaning (just my WAG) 10's of thousands of dollars or more. Someone beach hunting on the Florida coast finds a coin from a Spanish galleon? Yawn. Someone finds the galleon? Here come's every Tom, Dick, and Harry (public or private). When the SS Central America was discovered and treasure recovered, the insurance companies (and their 'descendents') from the mid-1850's all of a sudden came out of the woodwork and claimed the spoils. (Pretty sure the insurance companies lost in court, but the lawyers for both sides didn't lose.) There are reasons the world has so many lawyers but I don't think lost rings have much to do with that. For the most part, individual ethics and conscience are the ultimate decider. Of course there are always exceptions. In the USA I don't think it would be the least bit smart to swing a detector inside the borders of a National Park, even if all you're looking for are kac's Zincolns.

Paul Thank you and everyone that has responded. I will pull the trigger on this machine in the coming days. Learning a new machine is fun and sometimes frustrating but that is part of the game An idea for some of the more experienced and creative folks in the group. I have been thinking of laminated flash cards that you could take to the field. Nothing specific because everyone’s soil and conditions will be different Just basic functions and how to reach them and use them For instance Salinity how to get to it then how to use it. Black sand how to get to it and how to use it. you get the idea. I have watched just about every video out there, however watching in the field or trying to retain that in the field until the functions are learned would be beneficial to new users. Might be a way for someone to make a little $$$$$ Thanks again all. I think I will really enjoy this machine HH Jim

Hello Jim Welcome to the Tarsacci forum, and Congratulations with the nice finds you’ve made throughout your detecting career. Good informative information left here for you to go over, I’ll add a couple more from my experience with using the Tarsacci. Little over two years now with using the Tarsacci, it’s my main land detector for relic hunting. Especially now, with the 12” coil it’s added more depth. Plus, The 12” coil is great in areas laced with iron. I’ll never go back with the stock coil, 12” coil is that good. Has a tough language learning curve, have patience eventually it’ll all piece together. Some prefer Disc mode, others Mix mode and some All-Metal mode, I prefer Mix mode, more audio information and little more depth. It’s no Deus for tough iron laced sites, but the Tarsacci will hold its own in areas thick with iron. Actually, under some conditions the Tarsacci will punch extremely deep in an iron patch getting a deep target beyond the reach of a Deus or Equniox. I still use the Deus as it has its place, had no more use for the Equniox and gave it to a friend. This week, did a comparison between my GPX 5000 with 11DD coil and Tarsacci with 12” coil, soil is slightly mineralized and away from iron. Tarsacci fared extremely well, GPX has about 1” inch more depth on high conductive coin size targets. On buried nickel’s, GPX slightly deeper about 2” inches deeper. From my experience, no other detector I’ve owned including the Equniox comes close. Good luck, whatever you decide plenty of Tarsacci users out there to lend you a helping hand if you decide to purchase the Tarsacci. Paul

Looks like the took the Mixed mode from my Impact, linked the STA mode display feature with the GEN mode motion all metal with a fixed threshold, fixed I SAT, fixed iron disc....probably at either 25 or 10 out of 40 and a fixed tone. Probably targeting the Gold Monster market share arena. HH Mike

If you follow the progression, the Gold Racer and Gold Kruzer are actually the AU Gold Finder circuit stuffed in different packages with little tweaks to make them different. The Gold Racer is the AU Gold Finder stuffed in a Gold Racer Package. Makro wanted one too, so they took the AU Gold Finder and stuffed it in the Kruzer package. But they are all basically the same detector so you can expect the same performance from all three. Want knobs.....AU Gold Finder. Want a display and like the Racer package....Gold Racer. Want want a display and like the Kruzer package....Gold Kruzer. I just wish the Gold Kruzer had the same aftermarket coil selection availability that the Gold Racer enjoys. HH Mike

When my neighbor finds a ring or a piece of jewelry he goes to the local paper and they will run an ad for 30 days for free. He asks the people who calls to describe the item and where it was lost. So far he has returned at least 6 rings that I know of. The other 50 or so has gone to market. That is what I will do if I ever find something like that.

Midalake I said the same about the window in Disc is almost nothing. It sounds like every target is standing on its edge. I feel the window of detection in DISC are MIX mode shouldn’t be any different. The only difference between the two is some items will be blocked out depending on the level of discrimination. Other than what I was referring to about I find the Tarsacci is great detector. I do wish Tarsacci would take a look at what may be a problem that can be corrected. Chuck

Ok for mineralized soil but what about the Tarsacci in mild soil with iron trash ? Does it perform better than the Deus there ? thx ..

I wish.... but I can tell you they produce the most amazing music I have ever heard from any kind of speaker or headphones...... I am completely blown away......

Maybe they'll make you feel like you are down in the ground with that nugget or ...

That's an interesting question. I suppose the test would have to done with a ring that has unique markings. And .... I wonder what would happen if they said "someone claimed it", and then I "sprung the trap" and told them it was just a made up story to test their honesty. Very interesting question.

Well it is deeper, that's an advantage, the 12"coil is going to hit deeper with a louder signal. but many of the targets where not that deep so it must be getting thru the bits of iron better. and the black sand, one thing is its blow sand but lots of iron in the sand and the black sand mode really make a very clear difference, then add to that the Salinity balance , its just able to cut thru the crap better

Hahahahaha-- them cobras wont hurt you man---🤠 if you are worried about snakes and spiders and jellyfish, and centipedes and sharks and saltwater crocodiles and about anything other deadly things be wary of Australia --- its a death trap!!!! 😇 Right Taskmaster ??????

Ok, so I just looked it up and they have 6 poisonous snakes in the Philippines, 4 of them are cobra's. So that is enough to make me bow out of this idea.

Often high end jewelry is insured if that makes you sleep better at night. If it has initials or a name on it I'll try to find the owner.

so---- even if it was -do you think the idea was to sell 2300's????? I doubt that.... And who didnt know that the ZED will go deeper than the stock 2300 coil...???? But she performed pretty dang well with the big dogs... that was obvious... I have a 2300 and wouldnt have given it that much cred.. Till now--- And of course, in this video the 6000 just put the old lion out to pasture !!!! bam! The 6000's audios responses were way nicer than the ZEDS.... I will say it again--time will tell --- (but it may be time Taskmaster!!!!!)😉 I really liked the clarity of the 6000's target response--- there was no denying it---DIG!!!!!

A short test and demonstration of the work of Equinox 800 on super extreme mineralization - with a content of 97% magnetite ...

I recall (but my memory could be off) the late Fred Mason posting this web-based headphone test. A couple years ago I ran the tests on several sets of headphones I owned at the time. My conclusion was that headpones that sound the best for music (what I think this test was designed for) don't correlate with what my ears say are best for metal detecting.

the good part about finding 1800s and earlier coins....them folks is deceased

Technically, if the ring or piece of jewelry meets the cutoff valuation criteria for your state of Illinois L&F laws , then your friend is in violation. The law makes no provision for you to do your own repatriation attempt. It will merely say to turn it in to the police.

Mixed mode .... which isnt offered by a lot of machines does offer the best of both worlds..... locate a targets... and quickly ID it as iron or non-ferr. You have a little advantage over me in that a good bit of the time i cant see the screen. So mixed mode is just another button push on a fairly small button. Personally i rarely use the PP button and wished the disc button was a bit larger especially in the winter when you might wear water gloves. Again, i think this machine offers a lot and brings back the fun in learning it.

From my point of view, I surely payed the excess of discrimination in the past. I hunted for years with a "supertuned" Ctx for a gold exclusive search, bored and tired many times, to discover finally that a well tuned all metal with a gentle treshold can do the job better in most of the sposts. Useless treshold on a machine like that, but extremely efficient on an Excalibur. My 2 cents are: forget about trash elimination by your machine and learn as much as You can to recognize environment's conditions. Go for the weight index, instead of type.Move towards the targets are more prone to be coin or sinker like weighted..Be Happy to dig trash cause this only means to better know the area and how far you're from Gold. The beach Is for me the most similar place to the hell. There's other few places on the earth where to begin crazy without a real cause.

This is the gold of legend in the Philippines. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamashita's_gold#:~:text=Yamashita's gold%2C also referred to,different cities in the Philippines. I knew someone in the Phils a few years back who was convinced she knew where some of this loot was. It boggles the brains of many Phils.

2nd'ed. It's a place I am also curious about prospecting. The USGS actually has some decent basic info on Philippine geology along with some mines and mineral resource data. As a starting point anyways. What I'm finding as I'm making an effort to meet people around the world in places that seem interesting to travel to or prospect is that even if you get the laws sorted out, it's really difficult to actually go prospecting in any way remotely resembling what we do here where you can wander and explore around freely. Especially in these smaller countries where there aren't vast amounts of empty, public land.