GPZ With Russian 17 Inch X Coil : First Report

[Norvic]

Two X coils I have, are as smooth as the ML 19 , handle normal in my ground where I nearly always run the ML14 in difficult. As I have stated from the beginning of the X noise debate, the ferrite had totally no effect on my ground, served no purpose.

I have humorously  renamed this X noise the Y noise. Y a detector dealer is publically telling very experienced operators they are deliberately ignoring an issue that can be simply shown as the formula X - Y + Z  = GOLD

22 minutes ago, jasong said:

I decided to order a 12 and 17 so I can test them for myself compared to the stock coil since few seem interested in doing so in a way that provides the sort of data I want to see personally. I am curious what I will receive, dont want a heavier one if i dont need it... I'm potentially cutting 2+ years out of my warranty (my 2nd gpz) so I want it to be worth it since I cant uncut the wire.

Jasong, that is the way to go, you will reap the rewards, I look forward to your review. You too will be an early bird like JW has shown he is in this thread.

[Travelergold]

Hi, we have one of the first 18" X coils and also smaller 10×9" coil. This is what we have found so far with the 18". The first time we used it was at a test patch that nenad met us at to test against 14" and 19" at euchunga, near adelaide in south australia. First thing we did was to use factory settings. Then we ground balanced using ferite. The 18" did have trouble balancing out ferite. We then went over various targets with all coils to see various results.

Moving on, since then we have used this coil on various areas in the adelaide hills region and sometimes we ground balanced with ferite, other times just normal without it. While detecting in all these spots we found that ground balance was as if had 14" minelab coil on machine. I could tell no decernable difference. Re hot rocks it reacted no different to the 14" minelab as always had others with who had 7000's. We constantly ran the machines over same area to see if the xcoil was picking up signals that minelab coil didnt and visa versa. In one area in particular there was a lot of iron stone which seemed heavier than lead and was as magnetic as steel. Naturally both machines were the same response.

We purchased the 18" coil for depth and that has found gold and targets deeper than any other machine on a particular area that had been methodically hammered by various good detector operators with various machines including nenad. (PhaseTech)

We wanted to go to WA to detect a spot where we know there is deeper gold as we found gold every foot to meter in this spot. Lots more there but to deep for current setups and the xcoil was the next step. Due to cancer and on chemo daily that is out of the question. 

We however are hoping to be in Tibooburra in the next week and will try both coils there to see there performance. 

After the ferite came out we used for a while but then never used until the x coil came and really thought  there was no decernable difference.  I know JP has explained why we should use it, i will use it now to try and balance as best as machine will let it, but saying that, we are really happy with purchase and in our opinion is a great step forward in detecting technology.  WAif we got to the one particular spot we would have liked to get back to would have shown plus or negatives for the xcoil as was in very highly mineralised ground, almost all iron stone.   TG

 

 

[araratgold]

Found another nice bit in one of my flogged spots today, beside a little patch in State forest. Went 3.6 grams. Also got an 0.2 gram crumb. 
Rough reef gold, as were all the bits from here. 

Only out for a couple of hours today, going to put a full day in tomorrow ! 

How well do these new Russian coils go ! Still had none of the problems that JP was talking about, and it balanced fine over the ferrite ! Ground here is bloody noisy in patches, but was still able to run Normal HY over most of it, which I could NEVER do with the GPZ14 or GPZ19. 

 
Rick 

 

[Norvic]

I hear you AG and agree the X coils have added to the Zs magic. I believe it is the X coils ability to handle the ground smoothly  set in normal rather then difficult that has made the difference. Heh whatever it works, gets the gold. I`m off again tomorrow  a days patch hunting is the go, found a smooth scrap at base of a slope other day, now find the source, or pull my hair out "another one piece patch" nah can`t be.

 

[jrbeatty]

1 hour ago, araratgold said:

Found another nice bit in one of my flogged spots today, beside a little patch in State forest. Went 3.6 grams. Also got an 0.2 gram crumb. 
Rough reef gold, as were all the bits from here. 

Only out for a couple of hours today, going to put a full day in tomorrow ! 

How well do these new Russian coils go ! Still had none of the problems that JP was talking about, and it balanced fine over the ferrite ! Ground here is bloody noisy in patches, but was still able to run Normal HY over most of it, which I could NEVER do with the GPZ14 or GPZ19. 

"Proof of the pudding" Rick. Nice lil' colour too. ?

51 minutes ago, Norvic said:

I believe it is the X coils ability to handle the ground smoothly  set in normal rather then difficult that has made the difference. Heh whatever, it works, gets the gold.

In the final analysis, that's all that matters - - 

PS: Hate those one colour patches!

[Lanny]

On 6/26/2019 at 4:59 AM, kiwijw said:

Yes....it is gold in the bottle that matters. Especially when the ML 14" stops doing it. Who cares what coil as long as the yellow material keeps dribbling in off old flogged grounds & new patches discovered. Keep it up boys ?

Good luck out there

JW ? 

Sounds like a winning philosophy to me.

All the best,

Lanny