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13 hours ago, jasong said:

Is it the photo angle or are these coils much thinner than normal? Hopefully lighter too if so.

hey jasong. yeh the guy I know that tested the coil in Bendigo said that they are thinner and lighter than the stock 14". He also said that the chip problem has been resolved, but whether that means they don`t need a chip, or they are going to be fitted with a Minelab chip or there is some other solution, I have no idea.   I hope the chip problem has been resolved, that`s the only way I`ll buy one.

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2 hours ago, mn90403 said:

The chip ... will they go the Xcoil route?  Could someone switch between Xcoil, NF and ML coil by putting a connector on each of those coils?  It seems then they all would be 'equal' and the best performer would find more nuggets and fewer bbs.  haha

Hi Mitchel, I think the bbs are just going to be all part of the signals one is going to get. If not then the non X coil coils are seriously lacking in sensitivity to small items. It will be interesting to see how & what NF do in regards to the chip & if Minelab cooperate with them on it. Any body with an X coil can still use the ML coils & so I am sure will be able to use the NF coils as well. The connection into the actual detector will not/has not changed.

JW 🤠

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6 hours ago, kiwijw said:

Hi Mitchel, I think the bbs are just going to be all part of the signals one is going to get. If not then the non X coil coils are seriously lacking in sensitivity to small items. It will be interesting to see how & what NF do in regards to the chip & if Minelab cooperate with them on it. Any body with an X coil can still use the ML coils & so I am sure will be able to use the NF coils as well. The connection into the actual detector will not/has not changed.

JW 🤠

Well probably the easiest way to get around the chip problem, would be to disable the chip detection in the Z’s software, assuming the chip does nothing else, but validate the coil.

Maybe Minelab have listened, and will release a patch to do just that ???? 

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6 hours ago, egixe4 said:

Well probably the easiest way to get around the chip problem, would be to disable the chip detection in the Z’s software, assuming the chip does nothing else, but validate the coil.

 

Maybe Minelab have listened, and will release a patch to do just that ???? 

I am surprised no one (the Chinese) has figured this out yet.  They used to do this all the time with old Xbox systems, etc.  That way you could copy the games to DVD's and play them bypassing the security.  Hell you can even have your iPhone "jailbroke" so you can put your own apps on it.  Of course I am sure there is not that many people comparatively that have Zeds, or want to do that to make there own custom coils.

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Interesting Phoenix, if thinner (and lighter) then I'm doubly curious what the design inside the NF's is like then. Definitely going to have to test one of these out when they are released.

4 hours ago, afreakofnature said:

I am surprised no one (the Chinese) has figured this out yet. 

Are you sure no one has already? 🤐 Don't underestimate good ole fashioned American ingenuity! The security problem isn't the chip, it's the custom physical connector. I think the purpose of the chip is primarily to prevent compatibility issues when new coil designs and new detector designs are released. It was poorly planned security if not.

One thing I want to mention is that the shaft needs to be longer if lots of people start using bigger coils though. I'm only 6ft tall, and with the shaft fully extended I step on the back of my 17x12 X Coil all the time.

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if the shaft is made longer, (custom made) then the coil cable or patch lead will/should be also made longer so as not to put extra strain on the plug/plugs when the longer shaft is fully extended.

cheers dave

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certainly would be nice to hear from Nuggetfinder or Minelab. But I've spent a lot of time out in the sun over the years so I'm probably hallucinating.

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I got this email reply from Nuggetfinder the other day when I inquired about when their coils are coming out.  ”Our 12” Zed coil is expected to be ready by July, this will depend on the supply of some parts we are waiting for.”
 

Looks like the first is a 12”

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perfect.

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4 hours ago, afreakofnature said:

this will depend on the supply of some parts we are waiting for

Hoping and praying that’s the Minelab supplied chips that will allow these coils to be used directly with the GPZ without modification. Since Nugget Finder makes their own coils there is not much else it could be.

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