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I told the wife I was going on a quick hunt this morning and would be back by noon. Made it back by 11:30 instead lol. The goal was to combine a relic hunt at an old WW2 base near me and hit a park on the way home for jewerly...The WW2 base is nothing more than urban development with dirt that has been turned over but you can still find some cool stuff if you know where to look. Used the Deus 2 for about 1.5 hours then switched gears and hit a park on the way home. Targets were tough all around with most being beyond the reach of the garret carrot. Was very pleased to see the shiny gold ring pop out of the hole at the park. It was a solid 18 with the Nox in park 1 and weighs right at 6 grams 14K... I dug many zinc pennies today that read from 20 to 12 in various stages of decay. The tiny chain is silver and was a 1 on the Nox...the bigger chain plus crusifix is stainless. Dont forget to dig those zinc pennies fellas you never know what will turn up. HH and Thanksgiving. strick

Great picture, something about that color!! Here are a few of my bigger pieces I could to this day after many many years tell you the exact spot I found them, but I won't 🙂 the big ones are out there..don't let anyone tell you there not.

I’ve been more than blessed other than with Nuggets! The Friends, Adventure and lifetime of memories are my best finds. I was a pretty successful dredger in the Motherlode, but that gave way to full time metal detecting to satisfy my Gold Fever. I can’t remember every poke I’ve parted with, but if I remember right this one was over 5 ounces. It’s a mixture of California Foothills nuggets and the bottom one was just a hair shy of 1-ounce from the Sawtooth Knob area of Nevada. You bet I wonder, where all the big nuggets are at…until the next virgin patch of fatties, keep swinging that coil. LuckyLundy

Nine Thanksgivings ago I found my largest nugget on Thanksgiving Day 2013. I've told the story a few times and posted it on a couple of other forums before I joined here. This link will give a look back and let you remember or get introduced to a few old timers mostly from the Southwestern United States where I found the nugget. It is an Arizona nugget. Introducing the Goose Egg Nugget (22.46 oz Speci) - GOLD NUGGET HUNTING - Nugget Shooter Forums (ipbhost.com) The night before I found this nugget I slept in my Isuzu Trooper and about an hour after I got up I heard this deep target in an area that had been hunted heavily for meteorites. After digging down into the cobbles out came the speci. It is nice to remember it but also sad because some of the people I shared the find with are no longer with us. Have a great Thanksgiving everyone. This is my entry into Gerry's contest.

I’m thankful for all who contribute to this fine forum in so many ways. Some just read and gather knowledge while other enjoy posting pics/stories and sharing your experiences. A few wise old men who’ve busted so many pairs of boots to the ground…as well as plenty of young new gunners still wearing metal in their soles and plenty of average Joes to share the fun and tell stories when the sun goes down. You all help in different ways to make this DP forum the best. As a thank you from Gerry’s Detectors. I’d like to have a little fun contest. No I'm not giving away a free $1000 detector like I did last year on here, but a very nice Minelab Detecting Vest with more pockets to lose stuff in. It is a nice vest (see pic at bottom) though and the best part, is just having fun. Share a pic and short story (Simon, notice I said short story) of a “Thankful nugget” on this thread. Contest ends Sunday, 27th at midnight my time. 1 entry per person. The winner will get a Minelab vest sent to them free of charge. Sorry but I do not plan on sending the vest outside of the USA. Sure we all would enjoy seeing your Thankful nugget and short story, no matter what country you are from. So, if you are the lucky drawing winner, then give me a name and address of someone in the US who you would enjoy donating your winning Vest. This allows everyone to play and also gives kudos to those from outside the US who go along. All who post their 1 pic and short story will get their name dropped into a hat and there will be a simple drawing sometime next week. I’ll post the winner and then you PM me your USA mailing address. Again, if outside of the US is the winner, please select someone in the US you would like to donate the vest and I will send it on your behalf. Below is pic of my Thankful nugget. My 1st nugget from South Dakota. I watched Deadwood and was drawn in from the story. A month later a special friend invited me to SD. 1st day in the field, 1st hour and I scored gold in more ways than one. Fun times, memories at dinner (happy birthday to your wife) and just an overall wonderful experience. I'm Thankful for the opportunity you shared with me. Looking forward to having some nice reads and interesting nugget pics to see. Again, Happy Thanksgiving to my DP friends and safe travels during the holiday weekend.

Our thankful nugget is not the many gold wire and leaf specimens I and my wife have recovered over 30+ summers here in Colorado but being able to experience all the good and bad times we spent detecting those prize specimens. The memories and stories that we are able share make it seem just as exciting and satisfying as the day we found them. Here is a recent wire gold specimen I finished cleaning and mother nature was sure in rare form we she created this one:

1¼ Troy Pounds (16 Oz) in Carol's hand all from separate patches. I was lucky I got it back off her. 😁

Happy Turkey day everyone! Yes, I'm a prospecting scoundrel being out here at this very moment nugget shooting on this family-oriented holiday. But, I got the go ahead from the wife and kids to do a late dinner tonight. I've done a few quick tests of my new Axiom in a familiar patch area that's like an old friend on life support. Sad to see a patch dry up, but I know there is still gold on the fringes. I tried out the 13x11DD on the hottest patch of dirt I know of and it drives all of my PIs nuts, especially when wet like right now. I got the machine calmed in Normal mode/timing and sensitivity at 2-3. Nice to have adjustability like that. Next I headed up the ridge to "milder" dirt, its "only" highly-mineralized instead of red hot, haha. We've cleaned it pretty well, just a few pieces of small rust and an almond-sized hot rock with the 11x7 mono equipped now. I did snag the smaller nugget on a steep, very rocky spot 2-3in. down. It was likely missed by larger coils that didn't fit. I just pulled this second nugget at a spot where an old timer's ditch hits the creek. It's loaded with nails and is a spot we've "saved" until last. Down 3in. on bedrock, I was sure it would be a nail. It was not, and something to be thankful on this day! My tough ground is challenging the Axiom pretty hard. I'm in Fine mode, but on sensitivity 2. Higher sensitivity levels are too much, as Steve warns in his sensitivity control guidelines thread. HEED his warnings! The only hitch has been the wireless headphones. They frequently "pop" and wireless is lost for an instant. Seems to happen when my head nears the coil to dig or run the scoop over it. I've had a few times its totally disconnected. Standing up reconnects it. Multiple repairing and even a factory reset haven't solved it. I'm running the speaker now and I'm glad this unit has one. It's plenty loud and clear.

Hell, they might even fit into Gerrys mouth....... lmao....

People may have noticed I have largely stayed out of this. I'm well over all the hype, and totally agree with Jason. We are literally announcing announcements now. People are self hyping themselves to death over this, with various interests more than happy to fan the flames. It's totally new? No, it's the next logical iteration I would expect as a followup to the Equinox. Totally new or iteration is just how you look at things. If it has just one thing different some people want it to be totally new, nothing ever made like it ever before. That's what feeds the hype machine - oh my gosh, it's super duper really new magical technology!!!!! One generation, no, two generational leap to the moon technology!!!!!!!! But anyone who has an Equinox and gets a Manticore will find out real fast it's just the next step. Take an Equinox, listen to the feedback for four years, fix the issues, improve what you can, all with an eye to filling the now vacant $1500 E-TRAC price slot = Manticore. The Equinox took everything to the next level, and squeezing anymore performance out with newer models is at the point of diminishing returns. It may not be what people want to hear, but mark my words and remember them later when the dust settles.... this is Equinox Mark 2. I'm not saying that to belittle it. Just the opposite. The Equinox took us all to a new level, and Manticore takes everything Minelab learned from that, and makes it better across the board. About the only thing I'm unsure about is how water hunters will like that new coil with the added superstructure - not going to cut water like the Nox 11". But other than that, this is the perfect machine for somebody that loves the Nox, but wants more. Be nice if they took some of the improvements made with Manticore, and used them to refresh the Equinox with an update also. I really like and enjoy working with the engineers at Minelab, but their marketing people seem to keep getting farther and farther from what I want to see as a down to earth detectorist. Everything about the Manticore release puts me off, with the exception of them letting Mark loose to blab away. That part is fun and informative, as the engineers are usually kept under lock and key. But all this other stuff, even the name.... not turning me on at all. I do miss Bill Stirling and the days when marketing was driven by tech papers and actual detecting experts. Now it's all Chicago style flash, no substance. Except for Mark. I can only appreciate how hard it is for a nerdy engineer type to stand in front of crowds like he has been doing - good on him. Anyway, people are desperate for information, and love to discuss, and that's good, as that's what a forum runs on. I do want to thank people here for having sane and rational discussions. It means I can be off doing other things and not worry some sort of fight will brew up. That is something else to be thankful for today. Happy Thanksgiving!

Is that what it means? And here I thought it was something I said or did.

I noticed the same, Norvic. JP is missing in action on DP. That for sure means the "GPZ8" is coming. If the release date would be 2023 (and not sometime in 2025...) that could mean trouble for the Axiom sales. Considering the high price tag of the GPZ8, advanced prospectors might think hard whether to buy the Axiom now and then the GPZ in addition, or to wait for the GPZ release. Considering that the Axiom would for sure be no match to the new GPZ, this could become an issue. Also considering the high price tag for the Axiom which for sure does not help. I could see that beginner prospectors would buy the Axiom, and the advanced ones the GPZ. All speculations from my end, but assuming Bruce Candy will not disapoint with the new flagship ML detector, the Axiom thunder could be muted. ML for sure knows how critical timing is. GC

Gerry I all those years my friend and I never was thinking about taking pictures but only on the gold we found. We nugget hunted together and lots of high banking from finding a little to a lot one time. The only pictures I have is what In my mind but they are showing age. But when I call them up they look like it was just yesterday we were working our rears off and enjoying it. One picture I have on my phone and I’ll post it. Thanks! Chuck PS This is not a entry but you know me I like to talk.

Well, I just got my Nokta Legend with extra 6in. coil 3 days ago. Today I hit a small park and started around an outdoor basketball court with the aim to find some jewelry. Day 3 detecting with the new machine turned out to be the charm! So far I have about 15 hours coin-shooting and looking for jewelry in parks and sports fields with the Legend, and I have to say it handles my highly-mineralized soil quite well with its SMF capabilities. Thankfully with my experience running 2 other SMF detectors the past few years, watching videos and reading the manual last week, I think I've gotten a solid handle of how to set up this machine. It might take a newcomer much longer to get to where I am, but the Legend is easy to use and even in the default modes and settings would work great for a less-experienced detectorist. Ring #1 was about 6ft. in the grass behind one of the basketball hoops. I thought a VDI# of 51 would mean it was a quarter, but imagine my surprise when this heavy, initialed with a "K" pinky ring turned up. I kid you not, it weighs exactly 1/2 oz. of sterling silver at 15.55 grams on the scale! Five minutes later, I knew I had another silver ring when I saw 6ft. over a VDI# of 55. I'd never seen an ID# that high in my previous outings, but being so close to a honker ring, it had to be another...and it was. A nicely styled, large man's ring. Its not a whopper like the other, but a respectable 7.23 grams. I attribute these two finds to 3 things, location, location, and the 6in. coil on the Legend that gave me the courage to dive into this zone heavy with trash, lol. In my short time out with the Legend, I'm really enjoying it a lot. Its a ton of fun to swing with the "dinky" coil, has great sensitivity to low conductors and works great in a variety of situations like in parks, fields, tot lots. Other detectors I've owned have struggled in my hot dirt, but the Legend handles it decently for the time being. Someday I still hope for technology that tames my dirt, but this newer crop of detectors with SMF are opening things up some. You still have to swing over the treasure though, and I'm glad I was able to get over these two beauties.

I have been cleared by my surgeon to metal detect but only on flat/level ground and I have to wear my CAM boot. Luckily I have two of these ankle boots so getting goose pooh, mud and snow all over my older beat up one is no problem. I have been out three times in the last week for about 1.5 hours each time. Great way to walk my dog and I get to dig 40 or 50 targets. Getting down on the ground to retrieve deeper targets and back up is a pain but hey, at least I'm walking and metal detecting. Deus 2 has been the detector I chose for the three hunts because I wanted to see if that ugly makeshift stand I concocted would actually hold up......so far it works great and no cartwheeling Deus 2 lately. Lots of people on this forum have been asking questions about hunting gold jewelry with Deus 2. I basically am always hunting for gold jewelry or any jewelry when I go out to one of the many local parks or school grounds in my area. Today I hunted a local park where there are organized sports activities like smaller child mini soccer games, adult volleyball (on grass), ultimate frisbee and also a rugby league. At a place like this it is always a question for me whether I should hunt the actual playing field or the sidelines where participants keep there belongings and where any spectator might sit to watch. Usually I try to find the sidelines by following the trail of trash. That is what I did today and I was rewarded. I had Deus 2 in FMF Fast with discrimination set at 40 and 5 tones for iron, small gold 40 to 58, US nickels and medium gold 59 to 65, larger gold and zinc pennies 66 to 87 and US clad and silver 88 to 99. So I did not have anything notched out and I made myself dig any good sounding target between 40 and 98 that wasn't too deep (down to about 6") with an emphasis on the 40 to 87 range where gold rings can definitely happen. I dug about 40 targets in a little more than an hour. Half were pull tabs/aluminum trash. The other half were US clad, a 1944 silver Mercury dime, a stainless steel/CZ honker ring target ID 50, a 3.5 gram .925 silver ring target ID 96 and a 8 gram 14K gold ring with diamonds and ebony target ID 72. All three rings were in a straight line, just on the edge of the playing field about 10 feet apart. So I got all three on one pass parallel to the playing field. Man did that feel good. I will eventually hit the playing fields too for sure. I did not by any means dig every target I heard. Only the really good sounding ones that were not at the edge of detection according to tone quality and the WS6 depth meter. Dig that good sounding aluminum trash.......it is the only way to not miss quality jewelry and bling that is mixed in with it.

According to some Facebook posts, the Gold Kruzer is being discontinued. The Legend is definitely not being discontinued. I have owned both and I absolutely prefer the Legend or the 24K over the Gold Kruzer. For me, the Gold Kruzer did not have a world class prospecting mode since it had no way to adjust things like discrimination, recovery speed or iron bias. It’s Boost and Micro modes were really good. The Legend can do those three things easily and its SMF tech can handle many ground conditions that will overload the Gold Kruzer. The only negative with the Legend right now is the 10X5” DD has not been released yet. The Legend’s 6” coil is really good however. Just my opinion from using them both.

https://www.detectorprospector.com/forums/forum/63-minelab-manticore-forum/ Post your Manticore stuff there, not here.

I've already lost this contest. I have no nuggets to show .. My best find ever was this forum ! But I'm NOT putting it in my mouth !! 😜 Thx everybody 🖖

It's better the second time around - Equinox update/refresh.

Crossing my fingers for Minelab Toolkit 2.

Beach hunt #13 is done and the number 13 is a lucky number. I had a great invite from one of our forum members to try one of his productive beaches. How can you turn down an offer like that? 😄 It was very nice of him to offer that up. I started with the Nox and stuck with it for about 2 ½ hours. This beach had a lot of gravel type rocks showing and that made the Equinox unhappy. I finally figured out a way to hunt it by decreasing the sensitivity quite a bit lower, just to quiet it down. Things there are deep, and the Nox is not the machine for the job. So, for the last part of the hunt I used the GPX 5000. Night and day! A really good hunt with a decent amount of silver and some gold in the mix too. Also, always nice to meet up with forum members to do some hunting. Happy Thanksgiving to all. I hope you get to enjoy the day!

Phrunt, Jeff M and Steve H, Thanks for the advise. Legend is on the way.

People were saying in 2021 that the GPZ8 is due in 2022.

I’m only hard core for a little while then go back to cherry picker lol...but to be honest I can’t stand passing up targets....so many chains will read low as you know and they can be the heaviest gold prizes. And the zinc pennies....how do they sink so deep in the turf.? My ctx came back from the shop so I’ll be using that for more turf hunting although it’s not good for small chains it’s great for rings. Strick

Well, the show is about over. Time to head home to cook fajitas and tacos for the 4 of us for Thanksgiving. 😁 I hope you all got something from describing my day out using the Axiom and had as great of a day as I have so far. The final few hours on max 8 sensitivity on speaker allowed me to find around 10 small targets on hard hit ground. All ferrous but for half a pellet and the final target of the day...a full pellet of course. The final pellet wasn't the smallest size, but was small. It sounded off at max 8 sensitivity and vanished on a setting of 2. Sens 3 gave a whisper I would have missed if I didn't know the target was there. This pellet was less than 20ft. from where my dad got a 5 gram nugget and it had been missed. That was the target that told me the Axiom does pretty well on the small stuff and the kind that builds confidence. The big ones take care of themselves 😃

Found just over the hill from Rye Patch on December 13th 2003. Hadnt snowed yet, but it sure has hell started after I was awestruck in finding this gold dental work. For more potential information to the story, look up The Last Indian Massacre Of 1911. I may have found dental work from some of the victims. And in reality everyone on both sides were victims. Happy Thanksgiving ya'll...

Hey Guys, Thanks for the update. I can insure you all there is no virus or harm on our forums. We went through this a few years ago when another customer stated it had a virus and I contacted the Host, Invision Boards and they did all the checks and everything and said it's fine. The Boards are hosted from Invision, it's on their server and I actually pay monthly for my server to be hosted, unlike a lot of the free ones that are loaded with ads and pop ups. Hope this helps a bit. I'm always updating my forum with all the new updates, so if someone is not ok with viewing, I completely understand. As much as our forums are slow, I still personally maintain and keep them updated and remove all the unwanted spam visitors. Rob

I stopped watching other forums and stay here because of the people here. Way less drama. 😄 Even though we overly greatly focus on a new arrival, the threads do have some good value. Not much gets by the people here when it comes to new information. For that I am grateful. But the reality of how machines are released (or not released - as in the AQ debacle), I'm coming to grow weary of over sensitizing myself to the hype. I don't need anymore stress than I already have. 😆 As soon as I get mine I will post a little about it. As for what I can gather from the machine, I will probably be selling my Nox and CTX. The E Trac stays unless the Manticore scores deep silver better. Gotta love this forum for the knowledge that is available here.

When people familiar with metal detector coils hear certain terms, they think certain things. Here are the three classic coil designs, illustrated in many articles in books, magazines, and the internet. Mono and DD coils are common, concentric much rarer with modern VLF and PI detectors. A classic mono transmits and receives alternatively with a single coil winding, and so is only used on pulse induction detectors. DD and concentric separate the transmit and receive into two separate windings, and so can be used in both PI and VLF designs. Metal detector coil types illustrated - concentric vs DD vs mono Garrett has some unique coil designs, but refers to them by the old terms. This leads to some confusion and incorrect assumptions about how the coils will perform. In a classic sense, a mono combines the transmit and receive into a single coil. Since depth is connected to how large the receive coil is, a mono often had better depth on larger targets than a similar size DD coil. The DD has separate smaller transmit and receive coils enclosed in a housing the same size as the equivalent mono. The smaller receive area often puts the DD at a disadvantage compared to a mono for depth on larger nuggets. A mono tends to be hottest on small gold very near the winding, around the edges of the coil. A nugget next to the winding gets the most benefit from both the transmit and receive phase, since the one winding is doing both. This leads to an odd effect with the smallest gold, where a mono coil has a soft, or non-existent signal in the middle of the coil. A clue to small surface nuggets is when a mono coil gives a double blip, one on each edge of the coil as it passes over the nugget. A classic DD coil tends to have a milder response to small nuggets, since over a lot of the coil surface a small nugget is far away from either the transmit winding, or the receive winding. As a result, with small nuggets you get the best response in a narrow band down the middle of the coil, where the transmit and receive coils overlap. In the last decade mono coils have been more popular than DD coils on pulse induction detectors for that edge on larger gold depth, and users have learned to hunt with the edges when chasing the smallest gold. But DD coils have some inherent advantages in ground cancellation and EMI handling, and Garrett decided to try something different when they made DD coils for the ATX. The main complaint was how narrow the response was on a standard DD coil, so what would happen if that area was opened up, made larger? Here is what they came up with: The coil is wound like a standard DD, but the winding crossover is not at the toe and heel, but in the middle where the inner coil area is created. This creates a coil within a coil, and the secret to the Axion DD is that this is what is inside the solid exterior. It is not a standard DD, but a "Focused Core" DD, with a strong target area in the middle of the coil. Please excuse this quick and dirty diagram I just whipped up. I may replace it later, but it gets the idea across. Winding layout inside the Garrett "Focused Core" DD coil The tones refer to the two different tones a PI detector will make on targets. The small item hi-lo tone, and the large item lo-hi tone. The design of this coil results in more complex tone responses than on a normal DD coil. This can be confusing at first, but actually gives a trained operator extra information about the size and depth of the target. Small targets will "tone-flip" front to rear, with the classic hi-lo tone in the center. Larger targets at depth will no longer tone flip, but just deliver a stand hi-lo or lo-hi response. Here is the super critical information I wanted to get across in this post. People just automatically tend to assume mono coils are better on a PI detector, due almost everyone using them. Yet we have seen more interest in some concentric PI coils lately, which have a strong center response due to the way the windings are laid out. The Garrett DD is a unique coil in a class all its own, and it offers a very strong alternative as a small gold coil compared to their mono coil. With the mono and the smallest nuggets, you need to focus on the edges as where the hottest small gold response. With the Garrett DD, it is a more classic response in the middle of the coil. Anyone used to hunting with a coil and assuming the center is where you are going to get the best signal will take right away to the Garrett DD for hunting small gold nuggets. The only caveat is you have to really focus on that center area as being the hunt area of the coil, and overlap your swings appropriately. Axiom Focused Core (FC) DD Coils from Garrett Metal Detectors on Vimeo. Keep in mind that the Axiom Iron Check only works with the DD coil. I would submit that a really savvy operator, who pays close attention to the tone flipping characteristics in conjunction with the Iron Check feature, will be able to predict the nature of targets with the Axiom, better than any other PI yet devised. It will not be a VLF. It is something in a class by itself, and if you have a good ear for target responses on PI detectors, the Axiom offers a wealth of information to play with. In closing, just do not forget this. Do not automatically assume the Axiom mono is your best choice and ignore the DD. It is a very bad habit many of us have fallen into, and I was guilty of this myself. I ran the mono almost exclusively early on. But then I made myself use the DD coil, and was surprised to find the more I used it, the more I liked it. All the gold I found on my last trip to Australia was found with the 11" DD coil, which has the same setup internally. It just seems more natural to me to be focused on the center of the coil instead of the edges when chasing small gold nuggets. It is also a quieter coil than the mono, which also helps when running higher sensitivity levels in bad ground. The Axiom 13"x11" DD has a hotspot that is about 6"x5" in the center, where you should focus your efforts on smaller gold. The 11"x7" DD has a very hot 5"x4" center zone, roughly illustrated below. As a final reminder, there are six coils available now, or very soon, for the Garrett Axiom. There mono, and three DD. All three of the DD designs including the 16" DD are actually the Garrett "Focused Core" DD in disguise. These coils are not protected by chips or anything that would block third party support, so I expect we will see more coils soon, either from Garrett, the aftermarket, or both.

I hope this doesn't ruffle any feathers but my main concern is getting the Axiom in the hands of as many users outside the USA as possible. Now a few guesstimates* are included here, but my price reasoning for Australia is thus: Wholesale price: US$3,000* Exchange rate @ .65= AU$4615* GST Tax AU$ 460 Air freight (% of large consignment) AU$ 25 'Normal' wholesale markup (25%*) AU$1153 'Normal' retail markup (33%*) AU$1522 TOTAL AU$7775. Now, given that there will be % adjustments in the 2 markups and US wholesale price, we can now see where the AU$7300 RRP here in Oz comes from. Now I am not advising anyone to do this, BUT no doubt quite a few ppl will indeed do this... Get a 'Friend' to buy one in the USA @ US$3995 (Exchange AU$6150) then pay the GST tax and airfreight which will be around AU$6950 total. So, even though you're saving a few hundred $$, you have the issue of no local warranty support and all issues have to be dealt with by posting the unit back to the USA. IMHO, not worth the saving, especially thinking long term. If the exchange rate bounces back above US$-AU$ of .75, then we might have to rethink. I think the whole exchange rate issue is the main detraction. Sad but this detector deserves more exposure around the world. I sincerely hope it achieves this, despite the pricing.

That’s harsh. JP doesn’t build them or work on the quality control line. Like Steve H, he can only suggest and advise, it is up to Minelab what the final outcome is.

Look upover, downunder here the 01/12/22 is next week, ML time, now I`m getting a wee worried about the Axiom Santas bringing me may have some upover DNA command imbedded in it that wont let a downunder turn it on. In relation to JPs uncharacteristic quietness, I have noticed a sort of strange blue cloud hanging over the horizon down over JPs backyard, its been hovering there for months. I`m probably just mistaken its most likely a Min Min light and Steves upset the lad.

This is true, it is waterboards. They have been under orders to implement a plan for permitting for all of this time, they just don't do it. It is also true that Federal law, in the form of the 1866 mining law should supersede the state's ban, but the state simply ignores it. We fought this at the legislative level and even in court. It went all the way to the Supreme Court, but they refused to hear it. These are public facts, not a personal rant. I hope this post is not seen as a political rant, which Steve doesn't want done; if it is seen as one Steve, feel free to delete.

Yes I asked Minelab USA about that email the other day and they would not reply? Now it could just as easily be as already mentioned, "Buy a GPX/GPZ and get (here in US) a GM-1000. Knowing Minelab, they are trying to keep detector sales and market share from swaying to Garrett. Just so many turns/promos the last few weeks with Minelab and the recent release of the Axiom. Or, there is actually another detector coming out around the same time as the Manticore and so they choose the "in pairs". Either way, we're falling for it and peeking to see what's next.

I was saying it was due in 2017 but I'm still waiting for the magic detector.

Great info Jeff, good to hear you are on the mend and dialing into the D2. Thanks for sharing your thoughts guys 🤝

Eq upgrade? I have the feeling it`s bigger maybe GPZ 2s release announcement? JP`s been quiet for months, too quiet.... Ah.... I`m falling into MLs marketing ploy? Only a week away and we`ll know or will we?

Thanks fellas I’m out of likes today lol...yes Cal I will dig ones with the Nox once in a while looking for those gold chains this one was a small silver instead. What was surprising was that fork came out of the ground in the condition you see there and it’s been there since the 1940’s ...that’s some good Stainless right there. Had a good hunt all around this morning and made my day.. strick

This is a machine that's a dramatic departure from anythig else out there--closest being the TDI Pro. I have two and plan to keep them in that they do things no other machine will. I like the smoothness, target information and overall audio. The optimization is also great too--it loves the high foils and so do I 😁. This is how I try and set up any machine I use. If you have some awareness of the concepts of "carry" and "correlation" and stay off the wide, responses, the discrimination is helpfull. (I would use a stronger word--but Im still learning). You are probably better off running in All Metal, for the added depth. This requires a bit of PI skill. I do wish that it responded better to big 22k but running A/M does offset this a bit. Yes there have been build issues but nothing insurmountable. In particular the Vishay pots are problematic--maybe the 14.4 is too hot for them in that the T/H seems to be particulary vulnerable to frying out. I've had several replaced. In the environment I hunt, (Equinox "troll" under every bridge, lol) this machine is exactly the edge I need. A few years back my accuracy with the NOX gave me a big advantage, but now I need that same accuracy with even more depth and black sand capabily. While I'm still developing my accuracy with this machine-there's no queston that the potential is there. Here is a nice end-of-season 22k band find from a section that has just been trampled over 8 months by other hunters--the AQ went down about 18" to bring up a response. This is a machine that can go in after anything--save for the TDI--another very deep detector. There is nothing wrong with the Limited, just needs a bit of extra carefulness around the "tailfeathers." cjc

I see Gerry has already responded. 1 thing to add is that Garrett have 3 DD options straight off the bat. I actually really like the DD on the GPX6 but hate the size/shape. A little 10X6 option would've been a great addition. Hopefully that comes from the aftermarket teams but Garrett have sure made a statement by having 3 mono/3 DD options at release.

More to the point, just relying on discrimination at all of any sort will cause good finds to be lost. All systems have flaws, and everyone who passes targets for various reasons misses good stuff. The only guy missing nothing is the one digging everything. That's just the way it is. Almost any target will get called as ferrous if deep enough in bad ground. This causes way more missed finds than something weird like stacked coins.

It's not just silver, the same goes for large coppers. I have only encountered one problem in 53+ years of detecting. It involved the E Trac and a stacked pile of colonial coppers (5, I think). I hit a signal that was terrible, barely registering, but was rather shallow. At colonial sites, this happens a lot with falsing iron. I reluctantly did not dig it and moved on. My buddy comes along and digs that signal a while later, and get 5 colonial coppers including the rarest Fugio variety known. Stacked on top of each other, the coppers in the middle only has side corrosion and minor surface edge corrosion. I asked him where he found them and he leads me to that same spot on a small slope. My heart sank 😞 but congratulated him none the less. Even though that happened, it is extremely rare. If I worried about that, I would never have fun detecting again. Most spills move sideways and are not stacked, so you should hit on part of the spill, otherwise no one would find coin spills. It's not a concern for me and certainly would not discourage a purchase of the machine. If one tries hard enough, you can make any machine fail a test.

Most of us have moved on with multifrequency or are doing so. Yes, single frequency will be around for entry level or specialized niche detectors. But time moves on, and you can either move with it, or be an old fuddy duddy living in the past. What would be nice is after four years, Minelab took some of the improvements made with Manticore, and refreshed the Equinox with an update. No new electronics, but some new hardware would be nice. That Manticore rod is what most of us wanted, and many of us made for ourselves or bought aftermarket. If I were Minelab, I'd would ditch the leaky Nox pod and replace it with the Manticore pod. Reduce having two pods with one for production economy of scale, and eliminate some of the warranty expense Nox has been incurring. Win win. Equinox II + Manticore = More Sales

Thanks for posting the reviews, just picked up the Legend myself and taking some time over the next few days to put some time in on it. I'd love to see some postings on how it does finding nuggets.

Haha, thanks NC. 🤣 Finding old relics is as much a thrill as finding coins for me. I found it! It's part of the handle end of an old scissor candle snuffer. 🥳 This one is very close. Picture this way totally nails it.

I don’t know how many of you are following Oak Island but I came across this you tube video about the Templar caves in Royston, England.

I wonder if Alexandre can “up” the pulse width on the AQ. Better potential to capture not only 22K but bigger gold in general. I believe the AQ is running a pulse width less than 100uS. I think designers focus on pulse delay too much. The other part of the PI equation is the pulse width…….up around 250-300uS will help light up those bigger and higher grade gold rings. My modded XL500 runs a pulse width of 350uS (Eric was adamant this was needed)…..and I agree completely. This was also attainable as the detector runs on 3 x 18650 Lithium cells so can still run 10 hours with the increased pulse width. I hope the AQ didn’t go the wrong way with the limitations of the stock battery pack (as an increased pulse width will naturally draw more juice from the battery). Damn that AQ…..it’s a rough diamond that could easily be a polished Bobby Dazzler.

Not me! If it is the next GPZ, I’ll be having my own Xmas promo/bundle fire-sale to help fund its purchase, especially if it comes stock with a concentric coil this time. 🤣

Sole purpose for me running disc up to 40 was to categorize below 40 audio responses as iron responses or less important responses. I don't concern myself with responses from iron or steel objects that are responding as mixed ferrous/non-ferrous objects since that is exactly what they are and these advanced SMF detectors are giving truthful and accurate responses to them. If I don't want to hear that "falsing" I will just turn up bottle cap reject and maybe the Silencer. Running disc above -6.4 will definitely help with magnetite induced ground responses when a proper ground balance isn't enough to take care of them due to soil moisture levels or some other factor. Common target IDs for magnetite/ground responses in my area are -6.4 to -5.5, 0, and very rarely+25. Those aren't "falsing". They are actual target responses that are ground noise related. Running disc to +40 again was just a quick and easy way from me to put less emphasis on more than likely non-gold ring IDs from 25 to 40. It's taking a chance if say I was never going to detect that area again. That is not the case. I will continue to hunt that park with different detectors and with different settings......seven rings in the last 3 months along with multiple silver coins, wheat pennies, war nickels and lots of clad. Iron volume level depends on what headphones I’m using and wind/traffic noise. Usually with good headphones and very little ambient noise, 1 or 2.