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  1. It's been well over 4 months since I have picked up a metal detector. A house remodel and some landscaping has kept me away from the treasure fields unfortunately. When my buddy Merton called and said he wanted to go on a hunt all I could think of was that I needed to get the house finished before I went goofing around with a metal detector. Reluctantly I told myself that I probably could use a break and so I invited him to come on down. Merton, being the thoughtful guy he is called a couple days before our designated date and gave me the option of cancelling but I told him to come down and lets go for a hunt! I was starting to look forward to it as we always have fun treasure hunting together. I had already decided we were going to the spot where I found the old antique gold ring this past May. I had yet to revisit this spot. https://www.detectorprospector.com/forums/topic/6528-needle-in-a-haystack/ This area is on private property and has a small area of mining activity. It's not on any map. It's a tough area for the nugget hunter, the dozen or so pieces of gold that I have found here are small and few and far between. To make matters worse the area is loaded with lead from #9 bird shot to old 50 Cal plus round balls. For now I've pretty much written it off for gold hunting and would rather be a lazy relic hunter there instead. Up till now I had never found a old silver US coin there despite having made 7-8 visits to the area. A few old Chinese coins, a couple powder flasks, some gun parts and the surprise gold ring form the last hunt were enough to lure me back. As the saying goes "if you don't use it you loose it" And I had forgotten how to operate the equinox 800. The night before our hunt I broke out the owners manual that I had printed out (my wife made a nice binder for me) and brushed up on how to work the machine. I went outside and played around in the yard a bit with the detector. I'd even forgot how to noise cancel and was beginning to have doubts thinking I was wasting my time. Saturday found us in the foot hills on a bright sunny morning surrounded by herd of 75 very hungry cattle. I told Merton I was going to go on a walk about starting where I had found the gold ring and I'd catch up with him later. Merton with his XP Deus headed for whats left of some old chimneys down in a flat close to some tailing piles. I decided to keep things simple with the equinox so I put it in park 1, 5 tones, ground tracking, recovery speed 5 and Fe 1. The ground here is very noisy and it took me a while before I got back into the hang of things knowing which targets to dig and which to ignore. After about an hour of detecting I had it down and was building confidence. About two or three hours had gone by when I caught up with Merton. Neither of us had found anything really good. The place is not a very target rich environment for the relic hunter. We went back to the truck for a beer and some lunch. After lunch I told Merton that I was going to go up on the hill above the main camp and workings since neither of us had hunted it very hard before. This is where things start to get interesting. I had been gridding the hillside for about an hour or two when I came across a rare high tone. Kinda scratchy...but repeatable. A couple swings of the pick and out pops a seated silver dime in excellent condition. Immediately I call for Merton who is about a hundred yards below me and show him the coin still in the hole. I tell him to start working this area with me. Merton is a very polite detectorist and using good etiquette he heads up hill a little ways from me as to not encroach upon my new spot. Maybe another 20 minutes or so goes by and I'm about 20 yards or less from where I found the seated dime and I get a mid tone on the Equinox..14-15 and repeatable. Thinking it's just another shot gun cap or lead ball I dig a little dirt out with the pick....my Garret carrot says the target is an inch or two behind and to the right of where I originally thought it was. Using the Lesche I start digging out the area and out pops this little gold shiny thing. I could only see part of it but it had a serrated edge and I immediately knew what it was even though I had never dug one before! Gasping and jumping backwards all I could do was call out for Merton to get over here! he could tell by my excitement that It was something good....he's smiling as he walks down..... "What did you get a half dollar?" I shake my head no...."Silver dollar?" again I shake my head no....."A GOLD COIN?" all I was capable of was looking up and smiling as I was still speechless. As I went down to reach for it and Merton says "CAREFUL DON'T RUB IT!" There was a lot of congratulatory back slapping, high fives etc... then without touching the coin I said I got to go to the truck and get my phone so I can take some pictures. The coin is in excellent condition (1853 2.5 dollar) which is hard to believe since it's been in the ground for well over a hundred years. Here are the pictures so you can see what we seen. We went back the day after and then hit another spot a couple days after that. We managed another Seated and a few other trinkets. I'm back to working on my house again and Merton is out at sea. But I'm looking forward to our next hunt together. What a great hobby. strick
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  3. And a few more pictures of our finds...
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  4. Merry Christmas to all...may your scoops/holes be full of gold and other bucket listers...happy hunting, and good luck, from down under ???
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  5. Merry Christmas to all and wish everyone great success with the Nox
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  6. I'm glad you showed your trash/relic pile. It took a lot of digging to get to a gold coin. Persistance, Patience, Perseverance!!! GaryC/Oregon Coast
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  7. To all of the Happy Equinox users I wish you all A Merry Christmas & A Happy New Year from the UK. I hope you all get the Christmas Presents which you all are hoping for. Good Hunting Randy Dee
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  8. It was a good article. Thanks. I wrote it. No question we are there at peak gold for $1200 to $1300 gold. All the big producers are now forecasting decreases in their production rates for the future. However, at $2,000 gold, there are a lot of low grade resources that would then become profitable to work. It is that way now. The ores worked in the mines now for the most part would not have been economic 25 years ago - just too low in grade. Rock that is low grade junk now will be good ore years from now.
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  9. First dig of the day on a baseball field was a strong 34-35 on the screen of my Equinox 800. About one inch down was a pleasant surprise; I thought it was going to be a couple quarters together. It is silver and they are real diamonds. Not sure what the middle stone is, but it is a very dark blue. About an hour later I got a strong 9 on the screen and out popped a class ring (#3 for me and always a neat challenge to track down owner). If you know what the "K" in the inside stands for, please share (I assume it means that it is some sort of alloy and not precious.) I think I know the name of the person already, now some more detective work to come up with a good contact number. I was using Park 1, 23 sensitivity, speed 7, and ground balanced to 0. The soil is almost exclusively sand with grass on top.
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  10. This has been a long time coming. All of these items are now in stock and available. (They just cleared customs Friday) You can usually purchase them through Ebay or your local Minelab dealer. New Cover Sets for Minelab Equinox and Gold Monster 1000. And new Qweegle™ Double adjustment point bungee made with highest quality extreme grade Marine Bungee. I had announced these products before as I was getting various prototypes, but the entire production run is now in my hands as of Friday when they were released from customs. While the Qweegle ™ is available by itself, it will now also be supplied with the Ultra Swingy Thingy which has had a new improvement as well. I didn't like the "D" rings that the bungee attached to as #1. They were very small, and #2. They had a tendency to rotate and end up not situated correctly. So I designed a new LARGE non-rotating "O" ring. You can snap your bungee on it or take it off without ever having to look at it. This "O" ring is available by itself with a piece of webbing for you to attach to your favorite backpack or hydration system, so you can use the QWEEGLE™ Bungee with your favorite harness system. The QWEEGLE™ works great with Minelab's Pro Swing Harness. The QWEEGLE™ (rhymes with Beagle) Bungee has these great features: • NO METAL Shaft Clamp! • Fits any detector shaft, guaranteed. • All parts are made of Ny-Glass the most durable and expensive "plastic like" parts available. • Best Quality Marine Grade Bungee Cord, Extreme durability • Quick on / off Shoulder Clip to get the bungee on and off easily at the "D" "O" ring on your shoulder strap. • Shoulder Clip is a quick adjustment point that can be used to quickly adjust the perfect length of your bungee instantaneously. • Shaft attachment quick adjustment device allows you to instantaneously adjust the length of the bungee at the point it attaches to the rod. Simply tug the bungee into the "V" groove to lock it in place. Tug the bungee out of the groove raise or lower your detector for the proper height, tug the bungee back in the "V" groove. • Instantly detach the detector from the Queegle™. Pull the bungee out of the side slot of the shaft adjustment point, and you are detached from the Queegle™ and can lay your detector down.
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  11. It was great to dig in the dirt today with my nephews and my brother-in-law who are visiting from Australia.
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  12. Congrats Strick, incredible finds! BTW That 1856-S seated dime is likely, from a numismatic perspective, more valuable then the $2-1/2 gold coin, in the condition it appears to be, it may well be a $1000+ coin Just an XF30 is $600 according to PCGS, but yours looks to be more around an AU50 IMO. You example is nicer than this one that sold at HA for over $2000 in 2012: https://coins.ha.com/itm/seated-dimes/1856-s-10c-au50-pcgs/a/1172-3395.s?hdnJumpToLot=1&x=0&y=0# Congrats again, what a great hunt!
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  13. Sweet!! And great advice from your hunting partner. Although the 1853 (plain) is relatively common, as the grade goes up the value grows exponentially. Yours looks particularly 'spotless' although grading from photos is pretty much impossible when trying to split hairs between uncirculated grades. Only 10 have been graded higher than MS-64 by PCGS: http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/7767 You might want to get it looked at by a local professional (coin dealer) and from there possibly get it professionally graded. Regardless, one of the finds of a lifetime, and well deserved.
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  14. A trip to a different country chasing gold would be a great experience. Depending on how long you had to spend on the ground I would say the best value you could have is to not worry about gold tours and simply spending the money saved on vehicle hire and either tent it or stay in a cabin at a caravan park. Or maybe hire a camper. I have many a trip to the outback and its great but thats spending months out there. If I had a shorter time Victoria would be the place as you have many choices of Goldfeilds and more to see in terms of old timer workings. Outwest it is just vast spaces with not much to see in terms of old timers. Victoria has prolific workings and you can simply drive into town for a meal. Easier and cheaper and more to see and do imo. More junk though but just as much potential for gold. At least you know yr in the gold zone as the workings and surfacing is all around. You will know it hasn't all been worked due to the lead targets you find. Out West the gold is spread out much more and the learning curve is much steeper. How long do you plan on going for?
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  15. Merry Christmas and a happy New Year to all plus hoping that everyone finds a gold coin this coming year!
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  16. Thank you for your kind wishes RD! Merry Christmas to you and yours.
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  17. Thanks, Randy. Merry Christmas and everyone have a real beeping 2019!
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  18. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to you all from the Great State of Alaska !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  19. Here is an article that argues that peak gold has been seen from mining. https://www.coinworld.com/news/precious-metals/2018/07/world-moving-toward-no-gold-mining-options.html When you look at the coinworld pages you will see lots of other interesting gold articles if you like to read such things. Mitchel
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  20. Hadn't taken any pictures in a while for show and tell. But now that I have some, its show and tell time. Nothing spectacular but its still pretty eye candy. A couple of few weeks back I was out with my V3 and got some silver and gold. The 14K DAD ring is the smallest diameter ring I have ever found. In the same patch I also found this really neat silver CZ charm. This past week I took the Compadre/Cleansweep combo out to another patch and found the One Ring! Nothing happened when I put it on so I think its just gold plated stainless. Anyway....some pics to keep the spirits up. HH Mike
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  21. Four forum members (that I know of) have all found a gold coin in the last year! That seems kind of amazing to me, and shows that many awesome finds remain to be made out there after decades of metal detecting. Dec 2017 Cal_Cobra Bucket Lister!! March 2018 Cabin Fever First Gold Coin! July 2018 The Seeker A Once In A Lifetime Gold Find Dec 2018 strick Gold Coin Story You guys are amazing - is there anyone I missed?
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  22. This is a list of areas open to the public where you can search for valuable minerals in the United States and elsewhere. Many of these locations are free of charge. Others are private mines that charge a fee and yet others are club sites that require club membership. Most of the locations listed are places where you mine the material at the source yourself. Other sites have material you can mine or sort through that has been collected for you. Finally, some of these listings are not sites where you can mine but that may be of interest nonetheless, like old mines of historic interest and museums. A key concern for many is access to places without fear that they are accidently going to be on mining claims or breaking some sort of rule. Many people have families and so areas are desired that are suitable for both the young and the very old. Ease of access is important. Many people are tourists who want to experience some local history and who may know almost nothing about prospecting and mining. Areas that are clearly defined and with easy to understand rules are important. The focus of this section of the website will therefore be to list sites set aside specifically for public mining. Some states have very little information other than general rules and vague hints about where you might prospect. Links are provided to that information to at least get you started. Be cautious working in these states until you have more specific information. Always check the links for the latest information from original sources as things change constantly and material here can easily be out of date. If you have suggestions for additions to this list please contact me with your information. If a site has been listed here and should not be, please notify me to have it deleted. Alaska - Arizona - Arkansas - California - Colorado - Georgia - Idaho - Indiana - Michigan - Minnesota - Montana - New Hampshire - New Jersey - North Carolina - Oregon - South Carolina - South Dakota - Utah - Vermont - Washington - Wisconsin - Australia - Canada - Italy - New Zealand - Scotland Alaska Akau Alaska Gold & Resort (Fee) - New detect for gold operation near Nome, Alaska. Bertha Creek Panning Area - In the Chugach National Forest south of Anchorage. Cache Creek Cabins - Gold panning and dredging on Cache Creek near Petersville. Caribou Creek Recreational Mining Area - On Glenn Highway east of Palmer. Chicken Gold Camp (Fee) - Gold panning, suction dredging and a real bucketline dredge at Chicken, Alaska. Crescent Creek Panning Area - In the Chugach National Forest south of Anchorage. Cripple River (Fee) - The GPAA operation near Nome. Crow Creek Mine (Fee) - Near Girdwood south of Anchorage. Possibly Alaska's most popular public mining site. Dalton Highway - Gold around Wiseman in the Brooks Range. El Dorado Gold Mine - Two hour mining tour near Fairbanks. Ganes Creek Gold (now closed) - World class nugget hunting locale near McGrath in Interior Alaska. Gold Fever Prospecting - Opportunity to run large suction dredges near Chicken, Alaska. Hatcher Pass Public Use Area - Scenic public mining area along the Little Susitna River. Independence Mine State Historical Park - Gold panning at historic old mine. Indian Valley Mine - Historic mine location on Turnagain Arm. Jack Wade Public Gold Panning Area - Non-motorized only in the Fortymile River region. Kennecott National Historic Landmark - Once the largest copper mine in the world. Nome Beach - The famous gold beaches of Nome, Alaska. Nome Creek - 60 miles north of Fairbanks, 4 mile stretch of creek open to hand mining methods. Petersville Recreational Mining Area - Remote but road accessible site north of Anchorage. Resurrection Creek Panning Area - Popular public mining site near Hope, Alaska. Sixmile Creek Panning Area - In Chugach National Forest south of Anchorage. Wrangell-St. Elias National Park & Preserve - Gold pans only! Arizona Bisbee Mining & Historical Museum - Once known as The Queen of the Copper Camps, Bisbee is nestled among the Mule Mountains, an area world renowned for the diversity of its minerals and the wealth of its copper. Lake Pleasant Park - Gold Panning. Lynx Creek Mineral Withdrawal Area - Gold panning and metal detecting for gold. Arkansas Crater of Diamonds State Park (Fee) - The largest diamond ever found in North America was found here. Maybe you can find one larger yet! Sweet Surrender Crystal Mine (Fee) - Dig your own quartz crystal in an operational crystal mine in the beautiful Ouachita Mountains. California Auburn State Recreation Area - Search for gold on two forks of the American River. Columbia State Historic Park (Fee) - Various fee panning opportunities. Empire Mine State Historic Park - The Empire Mine is the site of the oldest, largest, and richest gold mine in California. From 1850 to its closing in 1956, it produced 5.8 million ounces of gold. That 5.8 million ounces of gold would fill a box 7 feet on each side. Himalaya Tourmaline Mine (Fee) - Dig for amazing multi-colored tourmaline crystals! Keyesville Recreational Mining Area - Pan, sluice, dredge and dry wash for gold. Malakoff Diggins State Historic Park - Gold panning along Humbug Creek. Marshall Gold Discovery State Historic Park - Gold panning along the American River. South Yuba River & Merced River - Now closed to dredging but open to panning, sluicing, etc. South Yuba River State Park Project - "Hands and pans" only. Strike It Rich Adventures - Gold panning and mine tours. Colorado Arapahoe Bar - Panning and sluicing at Wheat Ridge, CO. Cache Creek - Non-motorized mining in the BLM Cache Creek placer area. Clear Creek Canyon - Recreational prospecting at Clear Creek Canyon Park. Fairplay Beach - Panning at Fairplay, CO Phoenix Gold Mine (Fee) - Pan for gold at Trail Creek near Idaho Springs. Georgia Allatoona Lake - Pans and shovels only. Consolidated Gold Mines - When you visit, you will be taken on an underground tour of the gold mine by our friendly, knowledgeable staff. Consolidated Gold Mine in Dahlonega was the site of America’s first gold rush. After the tour you will do some gold panning, and gem grubbing. Dahlonega Gold Museum Historic Site - The Dahlonega Gold Museum, located in the old Lumpkin County Courthouse, offers visitors a look at the mining history of Georgia. Gold coins minted in Dahlonega and nuggets – one weighing more than 5 ounces – are on display. Idaho Emerald Creek Garnet Area (Fee) - Look for rare star garnets, found in only two places on earth. Indiana Gold in Indiana - General rules. Michigan Gold in Michigan - Potential locations. Minnesota Gold in Minnesota - General information. ads by Amazon... Gold in Vermont - Information and locations. Washington Gold in Washington - Information and locations. Wisconsin Gold in Wisconsin - Rules and tips. Australia Fossicking and Gold Panning in the Northern Territory - Search for gold, gemstones, crystals and semi precious stones. Gold Prospecting Australia (Fee) - Metal detect for gold in the Australia outback! Museum Victoria - Museum Victoria has an extensive gold collection. The majority of the specimens are from the Victorian and Western Australia goldfields although representative samples from many localities are present. Victoria was famous for the large gold nuggets which were prolific on some of the alluvial goldfields. Unfortunately most of the large nuggets have been melted down, although the Museum has a selection of models of historical and recent nugget finds. Perth Mint - Gold of every description is on display, and watch a gold bar being poured! Queensland Fossicking Guide - Prospecting and metal detecting in Queensland. Sovereign Hill Gold Museum - Discover the beauty and power of gold through one of Australia's most impressive presentations. The Gold Museum houses an extensive and valuable collection of gold nuggets, alluvial deposits, gold ornaments and coins. Canada Britannia Mine Museum - Historic copper mine and museum in Britannia, BC. Dredge #4 at Dawson City, Yukon - Dredge No.4 is located 12.3 km (7.8 miles) up Bonanza Creek Road just outside Dawson City. A tour allows you to explore the massive machine, the largest wooden hulled, bucket line gold dredge in North America. Free Claim #6 - This gold claim is situated “6 above Discovery Claim” on historic Bonanza Creek, in the Klondike Area. It was staked by F. Ladouceur in October, 1896, not long after the famous discovery about half a mile downstream. The Klondike Visitors Association now maintains the claim and visitors are welcome to pan for free and keep the gold that they find. Goldbottom Mine Tour (Fee) - Pan along Gold Bottom and Hunker Creeks. Klinker Opal Property (Fee) - Dig your own opals near Vernon, B.C. Italy Biella Gold Prospectors Association - Purpose is to promote and spread the hobby of panning for gold in Italy. New Zealand Gold Fossicking Areas - Sixteen areas have been set aside in the South Island where anyone can freely enjoy recreational gold mining without the need for a mining permit. Scotland Museum of Lead Mining - The Museum is unique in Scotland as it is the only former lead mine open to the public. Gold panning lessons are also available for a fee. Scottish Gold - The gold found will have lain untouched and unseen since time began! Panners have been finding gold here since the sixteenth century and your day will introduce you to the skills that they used.
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  23. All the current Teknetics metal detector models have now been added to the Metal Detector Database with User Reviews. If you have owned any of these Teknetics models please help others by leaving a review. Discontinued Teknetics models will be added in the future. For an explanation of the Metal Detector Database with User Reviews visit this link Teknetics T2 Classic metal detector
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  24. Peace health and good will to everyone far and wide in his name
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  25. And two found with an Equinox 800, trying to make that three :)
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  27. A couple of things that amazed me about my gold coin find was that the park I found it in is one of the toughest in our area. I have left that park many times with only one old coin to show for the hunt. The area I found it is right were my friends and I have covered countless times. The other thing that amazed me was my research after my find that made me realize that loosing a $5.00 gold coin in 1910 is like loosing somewhere around $125.00 today. I’m guessing not many people back then were carrying around gold coins to lose in the first place. I was flat out shocked when I found mine. Good luck to all in your search for one. It’s a high for sure when you do find one! Bryan
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  28. Strick congratulation. I have some advice that's a very nice coin and you will never forget that feeling when you found it. I told the story here of finding two $5 gold some time back also I found a 2 1/2 1836 on the Santa Fe trail in 1988 that is the one I wear. I used to look at my finds once a year at our metal detecting open house and realized that I would never get rid of my gold coins so I had a friend make me a bezel and bought a nice gold chain, I wear it at least once a week and the feeling of when I found it comes back every time. You will never forget the feeling. Enjoy Stick.
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  30. Seeing other people making great finds really motivates me to get out there and do more detecting. Thank's for posting your story on a truly amazing hunt !
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  31. An incredible find Strick, WTG!
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  32. Ditto Jimmy.... My way of looking at gold "value" is much the same. An ounce is always an ounce. Back when gold was $20/ounce it took approx. 30 ounces to buy a bare bones pickup truck...today it takes approx. 30 ounces to buy a bare bones pickup truck....nothing has really changed as far as the "value" of gold...???? jmo...….
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  33. Outstanding - anyone would be happy with this find!
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  34. Thanks for the welcome. Merry Christmas
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  35. Newer swingers can learn from this video. Notice the pattern of the signal on the 1st nugget when compared to the sound of the 2nd target. Some folks may not catch it at first and that is ok, but eventually you'll realize the up/down of the signal sound has a pattern that usually is indicative of gold nugget size and density of the piece. Also seeing how he crosses the target from the sides to help pinpoint. I also like his digging tool. Beefy is what helps dig in such hard ground and a longer handle. Thanks for sharing.
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  36. just found this tonite...Banjo pan...ha ha ! Add it to the list? ? Ig
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  37. Sweet. Then maybe all those dinks I have will be worth something. ha ha.
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  38. When gold finally hits $2000 (or more) an ounce, people will be shocked by the new deposits "suddenly discovered" by motivated mining companies. ICMJ had a good article on this topic last month too.
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  39. I really like your entire post Cipher and I do agree with you. How to fight manufacturers confusing and misleading? It takes educating the masses, and good luck with that, since we have a tiny voice and the manufacturers a HUGE voice. And it never ends. Latest Garrett catalog, hot off the press, bottom of page 29: "Pulse induction metal detectors are also commonly referred to as multiple frequency detectors." That is Garrett, an old line respected manufacturer, saying pulse induction detectors are commonly referred to as multiple frequency detectors. What utter nonsense. This is only being said to confuse, and to give the impression that yes, Garrett does multifrequency. Except they don't. Manufacturers all need to be careful casting stones when it come to making confusing and misleading claims.
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  40. Lunk has inspired me to start a thread about the Twelve Days of Detecting (it is the season as he says)! So, to start off the 'contest' we need suggestions for the lyrics that go with: On the first day of nugget shooting my detector gave to me ... ???? (On the first day of Christmas my true love gave to me a partridge in a pear tree ... got it?) Let's pick out the best one and then a couple of days later we'll move on to day 2. I think we should leave day 5 lyrics just as they are ... 5 Golden Rings!
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  41. This one’s for you Mitchel: On the first day of Christmas my true Zed gave to me .... .... a specie near a pine tree. 2nd Day: Two bottle caps 3rd Day: Three hair pins 4th Day: Four screaming nails 5th Day: Five Golden Rings 6th Day: Six cans a-rusting 7th Day: Seven screws a-singing 8th Day: Eight foils a-fooling 9th Day: Nine bullets beeping 10th Day: Ten tacks a-tweeting 11th Day: Eleven lead bits laughing 12th Day: Twelve coins a-smiling Merry Christmas to all and to all a good hunt.
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  42. A nice nugget in Alaska tundra... not a tree
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  43. On the first day of nugget shooting my detector gave to me, a full day's use on store-brand batteries..
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  44. One bottle cap two boot tacks and a target I could never find. Sorry it’s as near as nothing you can get! Chuck
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  45. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss First Texas with Carl and Dave Johnson et. al. On board. Carl did help bring the V3i, a 3 frequency machine, to market, and while I do not find it to be as stable across multiple environments as my Equinox, it is still my go to for most inland hunting. There are tasks the V3i is better at too. It is the best discriminator I've ever used in mild to moderate soil because of its tools and it's 3 frequencies. I find it's VDI to be unusually accurate. Of course I've dedicated a lot of time to that machine, but it's been worth it. And that 13" ultimate Detech brings the V3i to life in a way that no stock coils do, remarkably so. Dave did bring the CZs to market, which have stood the test of time. The F75 is a single frequency machine that operates like a multi in many ways. Still one of the very best machines out there. Additionally, It is not common knowledge that Whites would be a lot further in the game if they hadn't stifled their engineers to a point where they felt the need to exit and/or go elsewhere. I have no doubt that the day is coming when First Texas is sitting in the catbird seat because of people like Carl. The things they were working on over there at Whites when everyone left, the world may never see from Whites now. The company gave away more than many companies accomplish. I agree with Carl in some respects and I agree with Steve in some. Though it is the performance that makes the machine, and I'm a happy Equinox owner, I don't care for the marketing tactics. They are disingenuous, as are many others,' and many units are sold based on marketing alone. I have spent a lot of time on social media and various forums to see people say they picked a particular machine solely on the basis of the number of frequencies it claims to run. In fact, this even affects Minelab purchase decisions as many people who own FBS products will not buy an Equinox saying things like "there's no way a 5 frequency machine can do better than a 28 frequency machine." If they understood the technical truth of the matter sooner they'd find that neither of them are either of that, and that the Equinox does actually have strengths that the even the CTX lacks. So my position would be that, yes most, if not all marketing departments use hyperbole, mislead, etc., it is important for there to be a rebuttal of those tactics by competitors when it comes to specific claims or implied claims that are being used for purchase decisions. A little bit of knowledge is dangerous and that's what the vast majority of us have. Enough to be mislead, until we arrive at a point Steve has, where you say there's more to this than meets the eye without a full time career in it. I'll just stick to informed purchase decisions and what works. Learning not only are some machines not running as many as we've been misled to believe, but that it's also not a frequency numbers game to begin with is part of an informed purchase decision. Don't look at the numbers, but how people are saying it works. I do however think that going forward it's important for consumers understand that. If something better than the Equinox comes along running less than 5 frequencies or less than 28 in the case of marketing of FBS, many people will be cheating themselves going by specs that aren't easily understood until the real world checks in. Often unless there's a revolutionary difference it never does for some people until they read a thread like this and begin to question what they thought they knew. I've done a lot of research not only on metal detector technology, but the history behind companies and engineers. I've always found Carl himself to want to be accurate, honest and helpful. I don't think he's motivated solely by self promotion or promotion of FTP.
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  46. We are all rooting for you Carl. The problem will be that you have your own marketing people, and they also like to obscure facts. The T2+ and F75+ were not exactly examples of clarity in marketing, and honestly left a bad taste in my mouth. Minelab sure is not a box full of saints, but there is enough nonsense to go around from what I see. We have Nokta /Makro selling a selectable frequency machine as multifrequency, ignoring industry convention. How many people bought an F75+ thinking it really was an improvement on the F75? How many people are buying a Multi Kruzer thinking they are getting a multifrequency detector? Minelab is not an isolated party when it comes to making marketing claims that obscure the facts. If I were you I would not worry. There are plenty of pragmatists like me who will gravitate to whatever works, regardless of who makes it, to win the day. Lots of people really are rooting for First Texas and waiting for whatever you are working on. It just can't be the F75++
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  47. That is a fair statement, and if what I have to compete with is performance, I am happy to do so. But some people buy into the gee-whiz factor more so, and if I come out with a 3-frequency detector they're gonna ask why I couldn't do 5, or 17, or 28 frequencies. Things no one else has done, either. The only way I can compete with false claims is to trump them with more false claims of my own, something that never benefits the end-users, and personally offends my sense of ethics besides. Instead, I'll just state the truth and do the best I can.
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